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Copyright 2008,2009, 2010, 2011</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>186</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-389884270512762</id><published>2011-04-13T16:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-13T19:55:35.188-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Meditating Cougar</title><content type='html'>The meditating cougar didn't bother&lt;br /&gt;with the elk when it shuffled by&lt;br /&gt;so close and easy, so available;&lt;br /&gt;it did simply nothing, seeing and hearing&lt;br /&gt;nothing, eyes unfocused and ears&lt;br /&gt;not discerning, a world gone soft,&lt;br /&gt;soft. The meditating cougar may turn&lt;br /&gt;its head to look not here, to hear not&lt;br /&gt;there, with no wondering available,&lt;br /&gt;a full stomach and a mind hidden&lt;br /&gt;and supple, muscles thick and relaxed.&lt;br /&gt;An old beaver died for this meditation.&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps it is worth it. The day's were&lt;br /&gt;numbered. And now the cougar becomes&lt;br /&gt;so much more than its pettiness,&lt;br /&gt;sitting quietly beyond simple earthly&lt;br /&gt;wishes, doing its thing, after satiation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-389884270512762?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/389884270512762/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/04/meditating-cougar-didnt-bother-with-elk.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/389884270512762'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/389884270512762'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/04/meditating-cougar-didnt-bother-with-elk.html' title='The Meditating Cougar'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-348254359217158233</id><published>2011-04-03T13:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-03T13:36:12.539-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Double or Nothing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Federman'/><title type='text'>DOUBLE OR NOTHING by Raymond Federman (published in 1971)</title><content type='html'>Go &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=5UOCirUB56MC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=%22double+or+nothing%22+%22Federman%22&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=UoBoRZOGyC&amp;amp;sig=k9tKc2-vyz0CKHn5UFBYNdFKH4s&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=IMWYTayLK-uD0QGZ_rT-Cw&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=4&amp;amp;ved=0CC4Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to get a sense of what this book looks like. Since it needs to be seen to be believed, don't skip this step. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The novel is a typescript in which each page is conceived of as an object and typed differently. Federman may even on occasion have used freehand ink lettering or stencils. (See page 9.) It is a classic contemporary novel, one of the landmarks of meta-fiction, where the author reflects on the making of the fiction as the book is made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 18th-century's &lt;i&gt;Tristram Shandy &lt;/i&gt;by Laurence Sterne is an early, if not the earliest metafiction, in that it spins its wheels obsessively focusing on details before the putative beginning of the story so as to almost not get there. Federman's book is similar. It follows an author getting ready to lock himself in a cheap motel room for 365 days with a typewriter, noodles, cigarettes, sugar, coffee, and a few other things in order to write the story of a character he initially calls "Boris" who comes to the U.S. from France after WW II.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book, however, only speculates about what the author will write or might write about "Boris." He never actually commits to a story, though he does spin a lot of potential story lines that are quite interesting to follow. And it spends an equal amount of time speculating about the daily needs of the author in his motel room. He even worries about how weird it will look when he carries in the dozens of toilet paper rolls he has computed that he needs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Complicating all of these (playful) complications is the fact that, if you know anything about Federman, you will realize that Boris' "biography" is remarkably similar to Federman's. Both are Jewish and from families who were massacred in the Holocaust. Both are French. Both come to America after the war.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Federman, of course, also shares biographical details with the author. Most importantly, both of them write books. Both of them are also gamblers ("double or nothing"), although the reader would have no way of knowing this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book has been written about extensively, and I will probably not contribute anything to this discussion. This post is more about my coming to terms with the book, and I welcome you to come along if you like.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are five levels of self-conscious play in this book:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. The typescript - Each page is an object unto itself. It is not simply a transparent window pointing us to the action. At times, we don't even know where we are to read next. This forces the readers to not only help to create the very page, but to encounter the pages not as media but as made. This entails that Federman's book does not stand between the reader and the story, conveying the story to the reader, but &lt;i&gt;is &lt;/i&gt;story. Every page is a chapter unto itself, and we encounter it in its singularity, and come away having been at least challenged, maybe rattled, maybe laughing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. The character of Boris - Federman refuses to make him a "character." Rather, he is the making of the making of a character. My guess is that Federman believes that fictional "characters" in novels do not resemble human beings. Rather, they are functions of the larger structures and issues at play. He chooses to make this self-consciously and explicitly clear by going no further than suggesting ways to develop Boris. In this way Boris is always at play, always at limbo, always not closed off. The way traditional novels make characters feel "real" is, paradoxically, to round them off, i.e. to close them off, rather than to leave them open, which is the human orientation toward the future. With the future closed off, literary characters are just not people at all. Boris, in all his unfinishedness, is closer to a person, even though Federman keeps reminding us that he, Federman, can make him do whatever he wants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The third level of self-conscious play is between Federman's biography and Boris's. Federman gives us enough teasers to make it clear that the novel is semi-autobiographical, yet at the same time he doesn't spell out the differences, except in a few hilarious places, generally when he claims he wasn't as shy as Boris. We become voyeuristically curious about Federman. What is true? What is not? He is such an interesting raconteur that I find myself much more curious about the gap between fact and nonfact in his writing than in, say, Jack Kerouac's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The author - The author is perhaps the most interesting character in the book. Why doesn't he sit down and just get writing? Why does he spend pages and pages itemizing how many rolls of toilet paper, boxes of noodles, tubes of toothpaste, etc. that he will need to write his book? And why does he keep rewriting the book, or going back to the beginning? Is the author supposed to be someone operating with traditional assumptions about writing but too honest to go through with them? Does he sense on a visceral level the falsity of those traditions? Is there something else that can account for his obsessiveness, both about the things of his daily needs and Boris?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. The fifth level is the most obscure. It is the play between the author and the writer, Raymond Federman. While he doesn't leave the same teasers about the similarities between him and the author as he does between himself and Boris, we nonetheless can't help but speculate. Things are not as voyeuristic because Federman does not give us enough details: This is a more abstract connection, or disconnection as the case may be. Here, the play seems most uneasy and even haunted, the obsessions are so overwhelming, the concerns so seemingly unimportant. I am not sure Federman gives us enough information to explain this obsession, other than the one I offered earlier, it is an anxiety borne of a visceral recoiling from traditional narrative. And given that traditional Western narrative led, in part, to WWII and the Holocaust, can you blame him?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book is a made object, asking us to do with it what we will, but refusing a closure that will allow any simple reading. All literature can, of course, withstand multiple readings. But not all literature intentionally creates the playful circumstances for multiple readings. What I've looked at today is one way of going at it. It offers a structure. There are undoubtedly others.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-348254359217158233?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/348254359217158233/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/04/double-or-nothing-by-raymond-federman.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/348254359217158233'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/348254359217158233'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/04/double-or-nothing-by-raymond-federman.html' title='DOUBLE OR NOTHING by Raymond Federman (published in 1971)'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-510297949125964302</id><published>2011-03-24T12:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-24T14:08:55.783-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Excoriations</title><content type='html'>stretching the edge   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of sometime&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and drizzling down the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;commuted statement —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;almost anyone forgot&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;her exact debt&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and the world slightly&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;crumbled on her&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;bending the given&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of thin&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and coming down on the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;questioned core —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;someone surrendered&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;his assigned place&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and his status &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;ever so slightly curbed&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;crawling under the roofs&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of anywhere&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and dressing down the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;extra ones —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;strangers peeped out&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of almost all&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;places and their lives&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;seemed almost cheap&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;cycloning the fence&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of hazard&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and wishing down&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the segment of core —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a shadow whipped&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;out a weapon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;that was a &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;mere shadow too&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;monkeying on the bars&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of nowhere&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and hoping for somewhere&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to materialize just for you —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the words end here&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;but not the bite&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the momentum&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;excoriations&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-510297949125964302?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/510297949125964302/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/excoriation.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/510297949125964302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/510297949125964302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/excoriation.html' title='Excoriations'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8973882232128280559</id><published>2011-03-14T16:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-14T16:06:56.543-07:00</updated><title type='text'>HECATE LOCHIA by Hoa Nguyen</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;I hesitate to write about this book of poems because it is in large part about a mother's bodily response to childbirth and its aftermath. "Lochia" is post-partum vaginal discharge that continues for about three to four weeks after birth. "Hecate" is goddess of motherhood, among other things. I chose to write about it because I write about almost every piece of literature that I read and like, and it is an extraordinary book. I'll do my best, but I encourage you to check it out.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poems in this book address a certain knot of concerns from a number of different angles. Namely, how does the body of a particular post-partum woman encounter and participate in the degradation of the environment through pollution, war, economics, and politics?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The very first poem places us right in this knot: "Up nursing&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; then make tea / The word war is far." This fascinating couplet claims that war is far from the concerns of this nursing mother, yet her bringing the topic up proves that it's not too far. The poem ends by asking "Why try / to revive the lyric". The book then answers this question: to get this female knot of concerns into the tradition of the lyric.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Four poems from the book can be found &lt;a href="http://www.hotwhiskeypress.com/pusa.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. "Thinking of Bernadette" (I assume Bernadette refers to poet Bernadette Meyers) opens with personal economic concerns. The poem asserts a nostalgia for the gold standard and bartering, and the first stanza ends with a comparison between money and a winding creek. Apparently, the poet feels insecure about money, that it's convertible and not stable. Her broken, hesitating, staccato lines magnify this issue. In this particular poem, her characteristic poetic style asks us to read the offhand ("thinking of Bernadette," "Ate ginger miso") with the crucial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In "Pusa" Nguyen pulls together a wild variety of subject matter in just 12 lines. The poem is filled with phrases and clauses that do not connect to other parts of language. There's a kind of offbeat stumbling in her poetry that is, I think, akin to Thelonius Monk's music. How does she hold it together? I think the answer is primarily rhythm. You have to hear it, but when you do the poems move in an almost inevitable fashion. Anything can be in these poems, right next to anything else, because her style invites them in.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on this book see Stephen H. Sohn's &lt;a href="http://gentlyread.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/effective-instability-stephen-h-sohn-on-hoa-nguyens-hecate-lochia/"&gt;"Effective Instability."&lt;/a&gt; His review does a fine job of focusing more particularly on specific themes than I do. I am more concerned with form.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8973882232128280559?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8973882232128280559/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/hecate-lochia-by-hoa-nguyen.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8973882232128280559'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8973882232128280559'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/hecate-lochia-by-hoa-nguyen.html' title='HECATE LOCHIA by Hoa Nguyen'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6851502744197667028</id><published>2011-03-10T18:41:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-10T18:41:16.507-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='progressivism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>What is There to Write?</title><content type='html'>I haven't blogged in a number of days because I didn't know how to approach a pressing topic: how do you talk about literature during times of political crisis? Does it make sense to do so? Is it obscene to do so?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly, parts of the world are in political crisis. And, just as the late-60's became a time for protests throughout the world, we might be seeing the beginning of something similar now. This may be quite a decade we will live through. The Arab protests are one indication. The protests in Madison are another. People of all ages are proving their willingness to march, to stand up and be counted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's true that the phenomenon is not happening only among progressives. The Tea Party movement has proven it's appeal: the last election could be seen as a mandate for their calls for smaller government, fewer taxes, and so on. The degree to which it may also appeal to xenophobia is troubling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My point seems to be that we stand at a political crossroad. Will the moderates and swing voters see the Republican party for what it is, namely, the political wing of the upper classes? Will their anger and frustration be captured by the Tea Party? Apparently, a teacher in Wisconsin voted for Walker in the last election and now felt "betrayed." My sense is that she had a distorted view of the Republican party.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now things are clarified. The fake phone call in which Governor Walker thought he was talking to a corporate leader proved it. (The ethics of the phone call having taken place I will leave aside.) He admitted to using a "budget crisis" as a pretext for union busting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's the alternative? As many have pointed out, the Democratic party has become a wing of the business party as well. They are just a kinder, gentler wing. And this makes all the difference. As the parent of a severely disabled child, I feel directly the difference between Republican and Democratic lawmakers. When the Republicans took over the Minnesota assembly a few years ago a representative was quoted in the paper as saying that we should not be funding every charity case in the state.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By "charity case," he was, of course, referring in part to children like my daughter. The monthly amount we had to pay to keep her in a group home doubled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, the democratic governor of Minnesota, Mark Dayton, wants to severely cut services to the disabled. If passed by the Republican assembly, his cuts will be draconian. Perhaps, as some have said, the Democrats are the political wing of the business class, only they use a kinder, gentler rhetoric in order to do the same thing as the Republicans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My sense is not that the corporate interests are completely consolidating power. It's true that those sectors of the culture that oppose it — intellectuals, unions, the Democratic party (sometimes) — have weakened markedly. But they have not gone away.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's hope that the protests in Madison are not an isolated final flicker before the corporate state takes over. I hope that power in America waxes and wanes, and that there will be a pendulum shift that will allow the country to once again become a more compassionate, progressive place.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6851502744197667028?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6851502744197667028/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-is-there-to-write.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6851502744197667028'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6851502744197667028'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/03/what-is-there-to-write.html' title='What is There to Write?'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4092942272228156376</id><published>2011-02-27T15:36:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T04:35:31.612-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Robert Archambeau &quot;the monkey and the wrench&quot;'/><title type='text'>"The Discursive Situation of Poetry" by Robert Archambeau</title><content type='html'>In this essay, "The Discursive Situation of Poetry"in &lt;i&gt;The Monkey and The Wrench,&lt;/i&gt; edited by Bissinger and Gallaher, Robert Archambeau&amp;nbsp; comes to the somewhat startling conclusion that "historically, the conditions under which poetry becomes widely popular are not conditions we should seek out." The two conditions Archambeau identifies are Victorianism and the expression of oppressed peoples toward their government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the former case, Victorians used poetry as a sort of moral guide. With an insecure rising middle class who needed instruction on the values and expectations of people of stature, poetry played an invaluable role. Perhaps Tennyson is the perfect example of this poet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as the latter condition goes, Archambeau goes into little detail other than to reference the Celtic Revival in Ireland. However, it is not difficult for us to extrapolate. In many movements for liberation, from China to Africa, poetry has played various roles in the fight for human dignity, from agit-prop to the creation of counter-traditions such as the Francophone Négritude poets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does Archambeau see poetry working within U.S. culture at the present time? Primarily as academically credentialed professors writing for others with such credentials. He views this as a rather dry and less colorful extension of Bohemia artistry, where the market could not handle all the art being produced so groups of artists began to produce it for themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How might this situation change? Archambeau seems particularly skeptical about boosterism and publicity. Instead, we need to look at wider social/historical forces impinging on the academy. And the most important one right now is "the encroachment of market values on the previously semi-autonomous academic system." (He takes this idea from Frank Donoghue.) The humanities may be the least well placed educational arenas to defend their utilitarian benefit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Archambeau says that these changes will bring about a new historical condition for poetry, and we can hardly predict the form it will take. He also seems pessimistic about our ability to direct this movement in any significant manner. (I personally do not want to see poetry lose its foothold in the universities and colleges.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This provocative article seems convincing on a number of levels. Of course we would not want to live in a society as cruel as Victorian England or as repressive as those suffering under a dictator or one party rule. Having poetry being popular is too big a cost to pay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I wonder at the dichotomy that Archambeau sets up:&lt;br /&gt;poetry in a free society is unpopular as poetry in an unfree society is popular. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I profoundly disagree with Archambeau. Poetry is hardly unpopular in the U.S. today. The form of poetry that involves sophisticated words placed on a page, usually with line breaks, to be read quietly alone or to a quiet crowd, that form of poetry is not popular.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But song lyrics are wildly popular. And they are poetry: "lyric" poetry and song "lyrics" come from the same root. The fact that there are a lot of bad pop, rock, rap, country, and blues lyrics does not mean the poetry is bad. Any type of poetry needs to be judged by its finest examples. And there can be no doubt that some of the finest lyrics today serve as good performance poetry. This argument is not even out of the mainstream. &lt;i&gt;The Anthology of Rap&lt;/i&gt; recently came out with Henry Louis Gates giving his imprimatur in the form of an afterword.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So the issue is not that we have stopped liking poetry. We have just stopped liking the type of poetry that is read silently or unaccompanied. Why is that? One is because technology has allowed us to. We now have stereos to play the lyrics accompanied by the spectacle of song. In Bryon's day, would his poetry have been sung over synthesizers, beats, and guitars if recording were available? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Old technologies rarely leave when new ones arrive. They just adapt. Wagon rides, after the advent of tractors and cars, switched from a simple necessity to a special celebratory activity, usually during the winter. Scrolls also are still around, centuries after Gutenberg, but they serve an ornamental rather than a utilitarian purpose. Newspapers will still be around for years, in spite of the internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What poetry represents, then, is a backwater technology, a nostalgia. The question becomes, if we feel compelled to write poetry, what can we do with this nostalgia? And here is where things get interesting. We could give in to just using it as tradition and allowing the nostalgia to completely overcome us, to become the poetic equivalent of gleeful wagon rides. Or, because poetry is nostalgia, it is not tethered to markets, nor is much expected of it, allowing it to become a sort of free-floating entity if we develop it in that direction,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This, then, becomes a paradoxical argument for experimental poetry, saying that its very nostalgic uselessness is what gives it its most power. What is this power? Here I come back to Archambeau. It is a Bohemian power where people who have, for whatever reason (academia, friends, curiosity, having come across a book in a bookstore or a poem on the internet), been drawn to this free-floating nostalgia and accept its marginalization, while at the same time taking the writing quite seriously.Why take it seriously? Because it is freeing to write and to read. It loosens assumptions and causes beliefs to dance before our eyes, making us ask if we want to continue believing them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So people have not drifted away from poetry. The means of production simply allow it to be delivered in a more spectacular manner. This causes the marginalization of what we have traditionally termed poetry, words sitting on the page to be read quietly. This marginalization creates a kind of nostalgia to be associated with this poetry that can free poets from most any tethers when it comes to writing, thereby allowing them to experiment freely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One word of caution: how do you convince a politician or academic administrator to fund difficult, exploratory poetry that few people read?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4092942272228156376?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4092942272228156376/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/discursive-situation-of-poetry-by.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4092942272228156376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4092942272228156376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/discursive-situation-of-poetry-by.html' title='&quot;The Discursive Situation of Poetry&quot; by Robert Archambeau'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6074816209277931879</id><published>2011-02-24T18:45:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-24T18:45:49.315-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Main Media Outlets</title><content type='html'>while the main media outlets&lt;br /&gt;looked around and went&lt;br /&gt;beserk &lt;br /&gt;we talked our way through&lt;br /&gt;a night of funky smells&lt;br /&gt;and yellow sounds&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a green and red&lt;br /&gt;texture holding us this &lt;br /&gt;morning, warp and woof,&lt;br /&gt;even in the flesh &lt;br /&gt;where there is no going&lt;br /&gt;elsewhere, just forgetting&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6074816209277931879?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6074816209277931879/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/main-media-outlets.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6074816209277931879'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6074816209277931879'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/main-media-outlets.html' title='The Main Media Outlets'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4820212846787294559</id><published>2011-02-22T18:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-23T15:06:40.396-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lidia Yuknavitch'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Chronology of Water'/><title type='text'>CHRONOLOGY OF WATER by Lidia Yuknavitch</title><content type='html'>The central metaphors in this book concern swimming and water: swimming in lakes, rivers, quarries, pools. Swimming for fun, to win, just to stay alive. And water sometimes comforts the body and sometimes threatens it, can lead to ecstasy and to profound degeneration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"You can tell a lot about a person from seeing them in the water. Some people freak out and spaz their way around like giant insects, others slide in like seals, turn over, dive down, effortlessly. Some people kind of tread water with big goofy smiles, others look slightly broken-armed and broken-legged or as if they are in some kind of serious pain." (99)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can tell a lot about Lidia when you realize that, based on what she says in other parts of the book, she probably finds all these swimmers beautiful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book tracks Lidia as far underwater — in the bad way — as a person can go. Then it tracks her surfacing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To say more would be to give away too many details.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.hawthornebooks.com&lt;br /&gt;www.amazon.com&lt;br /&gt;www.powells.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4820212846787294559?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4820212846787294559/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/chronology-of-water-by-lidia-yuknavitch.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4820212846787294559'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4820212846787294559'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/chronology-of-water-by-lidia-yuknavitch.html' title='CHRONOLOGY OF WATER by Lidia Yuknavitch'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7331083440929881649</id><published>2011-02-18T07:12:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-21T19:46:21.703-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Hoenigman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Yoshida'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Burn Your Belongings'/><title type='text'>BURN YOUR BELONGINGS (Jaded Ibis Press) by David Hoenigman</title><content type='html'>First, a word about the publisher. Debra Di Blasi's new publishing adventure, Jaded Ibis Press, combines visual, textual, and musical art in each of its books. In addition, the press makes four different versions of each of its books: an ebook form, a black and white form, a colored form, and a fine-art form. The colored and fine art go for $49 and $8500 respectively. For this review, I read an ebook copy. The song that accompanies the book can be found on the press's web page. The art work appears in a column on the far right or far left of each page. They are by Yosutoshi Yoshida. First, I will discuss the writing, then go into the ways the artwork and sound contribute to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hoenigman's book is obsessive on a number of levels: The concerns of the characters are obsessive. They are part of a highly dramatic and anxiety ridden love triangle. On another level obsessive groups of images return again and again: trains, umbrellas, rain, insomnia. On a third level is Hoenigman's determination to work this love triangle through about 200 single page, dramatic monologue variations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And these variations are singular. I've never read anything like them. Their attention to bare concrete emotion and imagery, together with the use of pronouns with no clear antecedents, creates, paradoxically, a rather abstract reading experience. For me, I couldn't tell who was speaking in a given monologue, other than that it was one of the two men in the triangle. A close read is repaid by an experience of the intensity and destructiveness of romantic love at a fever pitch, not by a clear sense of what is "going on" between the characters in any conventional way.:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I barely know her, someone left her on my doorstep. she appears out of thin air if I say her name. I introduce them. she only speaks when spoken to. always some distraction grabs him by the wrist. leads him to futility. grayness. wedges itself between us. I've never seen her here before. has yet to develop the grace of the others. or is she trying to deceive me. I kissed her bare shoulder. considered returning again alone. he's grown smaller and smaller. it's been months since that morning. the threatening little tremors. soon it''ll be over. a perfect opportunity for her to showcase her newly found distrust. for him to take offense. bite his tongue and await the unavoidable. downward so sharply that his ears pop. it must be warm and cozy there. I alone notice how it changes night to night ..." (101)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this quotation we begin with the metaphor about being left on the doorway. While tired, it nonetheless works for me. The momentum created by this book allows for such tired constructions. It points to the arbitrariness of their love and, in this instance, "his" patronizing feeling toward her. But this will change. All feelings in this book are subject to radical and instantaneous change. The suggestions that she is a child continue: she only speaks when spoken to. Suddenly, we switch to the other "him" in the love triangle. What we don't get here is what we don't get throughout the book: explanations at the first or second level of abstraction which indicate how the characters are specifically related. Instead, we get these truncated, popping sentences that follow the contours of thought and feeling so closely we never come up for air. It is an extreme approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On my ebook, the accompanying pictures are brightly colored and usually depict cityscapes or landscapes out in the country. In addition, many depict what I can only call surrealist scenes. Disparate items are placed side by side. Collages or collage-like works contain objects in two different dimensions, such as a head too small for the body. In general, the art by Yasutoshi Yoshida seems to reflect and refract the way the text draws little distinction between "reality" and "fantasy." In this book, a fantasy has as much power, if not more, in shaping perception as simple facts do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, the song on the website, also by Yoshida, begins with an acoustic piano and a recitation of a part of the book. Then there is crashing noise. I won't spoil the end for you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book presents a field of perception defined by fantasy, obsessiveness, and, because of the pronouns without antecedents, a lack of clarity when it comes to fact. The music, text, and pictures combine to form an unsettling, relentless investigation into some of the least explored and most feared aspects of the perceptual and emotive world. It is a courageous book.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7331083440929881649?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7331083440929881649/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/burn-your-belongings-jaded-ibis-press.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7331083440929881649'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7331083440929881649'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/burn-your-belongings-jaded-ibis-press.html' title='BURN YOUR BELONGINGS (Jaded Ibis Press) by David Hoenigman'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3782983629538034427</id><published>2011-02-13T13:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-15T08:45:22.443-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Interview with Bruce Holsapple</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2zVBPzMM-Eg/TVqtbTuhlrI/AAAAAAAAAEI/SA6JUT5AfnA/s1600/DSCF0016.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2zVBPzMM-Eg/TVqtbTuhlrI/AAAAAAAAAEI/SA6JUT5AfnA/s320/DSCF0016.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Poet Bruce Holsapple's latest book, &lt;i&gt;Vanishing Act&lt;/i&gt;, (soon to be available from Small Press Distribution and currently available at &lt;a href="http://www.laalamedapress.com/"&gt;La Alameda Press&lt;/a&gt;) contains the wit, irony, and attention to detail we have come to expect from him. The first half of the interview involves general questions about the book. It ends with a short discussion of Bruce's recording company, Vox Audio ( PO Box 594 Magdalena NM 87825), which puts out cd recordings of poets reading their work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second half of the interview focuses on a specific poem, namely, the first one in &lt;i&gt;Vanishing Act&lt;/i&gt;, "title?." I will let Bruce introduce himself his own way, but I should say that he and I knew each other when we were both students at SUNY-Buffalo in the late 80's and early 90's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Could you give us a few biographical markers that will help us better understand you as a writer?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I grew up in rural Maine in the 1950s, edited a small press in Portland, Maine in the 70s, then wandered off (Washington, Vermont, Texas, New York), working a proverbial variety of jobs, before finding my way into central New Mexico, where I now work as a Speech-Language Pathologist.&amp;nbsp; As you know (because we met there), I earned a Ph.D. in English at SUNY Buffalo in 1991, studying with Robert Creeley, Joseph Conte and Charles Bernstein.&amp;nbsp; I taught briefly at New Mexico Tech and UTPB in Odessa, Texas.&amp;nbsp; I’ve got six books of poetry in print, &lt;i&gt;Air-Rose &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;(1973)&lt;i&gt;, Total Eclipse &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;(1977)&lt;i&gt;, Sweet Nothings &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;(1984)&lt;i&gt;, Tourist &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;(1994)&lt;i&gt;, Observations &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;(1994)&lt;i&gt;,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; and now &lt;i&gt;Vanishing Act&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;, plus a couple new books in manuscript.&amp;nbsp; An essay on Philip Whalen recently appeared in &lt;i&gt;Paideuma,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; and one on the verse line in William Carlos Williams appeared last fall in a special edition of &lt;i&gt;English Studies in Canada&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I’m working on a book on Williams.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The title, "Vanishing Act," I find myself quite drawn to. Why did you choose it?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Well, because it works several ways, like in the ironic sense of all of us vanishing, being erased at various speeds—not an act at all, really—&amp;amp; there’s a lot of recognizing that limitation in the book, but also as a kind of self-parody, with the speaker as some dopey magician doing vanishing acts, presto!&amp;nbsp; Or my vanishing into New Mexico; I live out in the country, no phone service, etc.&amp;nbsp; But more importantly the sense of becoming “indivisible,” seeing &lt;i&gt;thru&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt; yourself, becoming “the view looking.”&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I mean, there’s a great concern with subjectivity, lyric voice.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Most of the poems are in the first person singular. It seems to be a version of your self, or your self in the making, that you refer to. Am I correct? When you use the 2nd person "you," you seem to be addressing yourself. Could you tell us what lies behind your choices concerning voice?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;The poems are basically lyric, &amp;amp; concerned with voice, but as I say, the lyric subject is more or less under watch, tho who is watching is up for grabs.&amp;nbsp; As you say, whatever we are, we’re in the process of remaking ourselves, &amp;amp; the poems involve self-transformation.&amp;nbsp; The pronouns do drift off-base, shift in reference, as perspectives shift.&amp;nbsp; I think of self as dialogic, emerging from an outside conversation we learn to engage, “oneself as other,” as Ricoeur puts it (&amp;amp; of course Rimbaud before him). &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Vox Audio — You seem to be making an effort to get on record NM poets who might otherwise be lost. Is this accurate? I am wondering what you think of the notion of the "minor" poet as a positive marker. What can a minor poet accomplish that the major ones, in the Norton anthologies, cannot?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Vox has two missions.&amp;nbsp; One is to preserve poets reading who wouldn’t otherwise get recorded, like Gene Frumkin or Jim Bishop, and two, to build community.&amp;nbsp; The physical facts of voice are instrumental to how the poems mean, so important to the poetry community.&amp;nbsp; I don’t think of major and minor, but I do think in terms of cultural change, poetry’s work, and of the people I actually know— who’s in front of me; that’s what’s local,.&amp;nbsp; But the Vox project extends from Maine (Wright, Wilde, Sharkey), thru Buffalo (Sylvester, Clarke), Toronto (Boughn), Indiana (Kalamaras), Texas (Huffstickler, Bird, Welsh), into New Mexico (Higgins, Tarn, Rodney, Moore, Goodell, Tritica, etc.), where I live.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;u&gt;Title?&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;You clutch too much, friend&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;try too hard, like there were a pose &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you could freeze into place&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&amp;amp; it would be there for you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;a point of reference,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Me &amp;amp; What I Believe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you feel like falling in love&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you feel like mourning the loss&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;all this melting snow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;endless rehearsals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;a slippery dance floor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;You try figure, arrange, classify&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;like you could capture events&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;make the connections&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;a 3 ring circus &amp;amp; you the master of ceremonies&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you pull out the plastic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;“Customer Service.&amp;nbsp; This is Angie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Can I help you?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;My favorite color is beige&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;My favorite turtle is soup&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;She talks math, loves algebraic expressions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Substitute zero for x &amp;amp; solve for y&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;It’s the economy, stupid&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;your credit is stretched&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;What pain that attachment brings!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;another force inside&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;speaking thru you&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;using your voice &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;locked&amp;nbsp; sick&amp;nbsp; feet&amp;nbsp; speed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;pray&amp;nbsp; read&amp;nbsp; frog&amp;nbsp; stop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you want to go away &amp;amp; not care&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;It’s the passion I feel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;what she engenders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;causes me such loss&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;What I feel for you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;What you produce&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;a boost into the air&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;no forwarding address&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;bee&amp;nbsp; gift&amp;nbsp; crowd&amp;nbsp; stew&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;owl&amp;nbsp; boy&amp;nbsp; involve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;skid&amp;nbsp; flip&amp;nbsp; call&amp;nbsp; crash&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Won’t somebody make contact?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;the ice is closing in&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I’ve broken to new depths!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;short green leaf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;short eye grass&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;shot glass&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;fall short&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;near high&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;go between&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;impossible gap&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;It’s hopeless&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;nobody likes you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;you need to cut your throat&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;snow&amp;nbsp; fire&amp;nbsp; spoken&amp;nbsp; star&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;mobile&amp;nbsp; tire&amp;nbsp; goal&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Dear X:&amp;nbsp; You’ll know I’m invested &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;by how rigid I get.&amp;nbsp; If we met &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I’d pose, tell a joke, etc.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I’m not so much making claims&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;as paying off deficits&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I want to see those connections&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;how the tree lights up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;a locus of identity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;something reflected back&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;not exactly “I want”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;but “therefore”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;this forgetting dust&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;this insistent sand&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;this abandon&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;these babies born every day&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;in every city&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;proliferating what?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Mothers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;death&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;dharma&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;diapers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;new shoes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;that’s exactly what I want:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;to keep walking&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 2in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. In this poem the "pronouns," as you call them, switch around a bit. You go from addressing a "you" to a first person stance.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Okay, can I give some of the background?&amp;nbsp; We regulate behavior by self-talk, private speech, as with commands like “be brave” or say with scolding our “self,” and there’s extensive use of self-talk in the book.&amp;nbsp; But speech is communal.&amp;nbsp; There’s not much distance from the imperative “be brave” to second person “you,” hence addressing oneself as other.&amp;nbsp; In this instance, there’s an emotional shift, right?&amp;nbsp; A sense of exasperation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; In several places you simply list words: "locked&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; sick&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; feet&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; speed / pray&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; read&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; frog&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; stop," and later "Mothers / death / dharma / diapers / new shoes." This seems to me a quite original technique, and it appears throughout the book. What is it's function?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Well, there are models in Whalen and Duncan, but hey, wait a minute—you use word lists too!&amp;nbsp; Is this a trick question?&amp;nbsp; Yes, I use word lists in fairly systematic ways, mostly as a structural device&amp;nbsp; to keep the notes bouncing, up in the air.&amp;nbsp; Sometimes it’s a flat surface, sometimes like scratchy noise, sometimes for transitions, sometimes just elliptical speech.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; The first stanza seems to be held together, in a tightly wound manner, by rhyme, off-rhyme, and assonance. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Hopefully the sound values ring thru-out, and the rhythm, and voice.&amp;nbsp; Word lists are often knitted into the text by sound contrasts.&amp;nbsp; Sound values are key.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. I love the sly humor: "My favorite turtle is soup," for example.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Thanks, I’m told the humor is pretty dry!&amp;nbsp; The book is about conflict, impasse, developing flexibility, transformation.&amp;nbsp; Self-deprecation—or getting distance from oneself (learned from Whalen)— was an important way to unlock from cherished thoughts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;5. The poem seems to shift focus each stanza, although remain united under a certain set of concerns: effort, attachment, loss, passing thoughts. Do you see it this way?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Yes, a trajectory gets established &amp;amp; you’re off to the races, one word to the next, as far as “it” takes you.&amp;nbsp; Go with the Force, Luke!&amp;nbsp; Lots of jumping about, drifting off topic, shifting perspective, feints, various forms of address, rhetorical ploys, who knows where you’ll land. Hopefully on your “feet.” That’s exactly right. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;6. Anything you would like to add? &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;It’s physically a beautiful book, thanks to Estelle Roberge’s cover painting, and Jeff Bryan’s design. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;We kept the price low so people would take a chance&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3782983629538034427?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3782983629538034427/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/interview-with-bruce-holsapple.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3782983629538034427'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3782983629538034427'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/interview-with-bruce-holsapple.html' title='Interview with Bruce Holsapple'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2zVBPzMM-Eg/TVqtbTuhlrI/AAAAAAAAAEI/SA6JUT5AfnA/s72-c/DSCF0016.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4761457009061669682</id><published>2011-02-11T07:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-11T07:56:21.332-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Heart (as muscle) and Poetry</title><content type='html'>See a recent entry in &lt;a href="http://webmail.c.earthlink.net/wam/msg.jsp?msgid=29782&amp;amp;folder=INBOX&amp;amp;isSeen=true&amp;amp;x=-280137381"&gt;Trancepoetics&lt;/a&gt; by Kistin Prevellet to learn about some fascinating research some German scientists did on the effect of poetry on the heart, and the effect of the heart on the rest of the body, including the brain.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4761457009061669682?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4761457009061669682/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/heart-as-muscle-and-poetry.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4761457009061669682'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4761457009061669682'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/heart-as-muscle-and-poetry.html' title='The Heart (as muscle) and Poetry'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5539436845528353255</id><published>2011-02-10T19:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-11T15:21:13.574-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jaded Ibis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Debra Di Blasi'/><title type='text'>Jaded Ibis Publications</title><content type='html'>Debra Di Blasi has started an ambitious publishing venture that combines visual art, music, (and sometimes other artforms), and literature in multiple and complex ways. In addition, revenues will be shared with both writers and charities in unique ways. Things are so unusual, that even &lt;i&gt;Forbes&lt;/i&gt; magazine took notice. Links to the press catalog and the interview are below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.scribd.com/full/46755514?access_key=key-rngplyqij57wnvt9ndi"&gt;New Jaded Ibis catalog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/michaelhumphrey/2011/02/11/the-21st-century-novel-jaded-ibis-sees-a-mashup/"&gt;Forbes Interview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5539436845528353255?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5539436845528353255/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/jaded-ibis-publications.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5539436845528353255'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5539436845528353255'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/jaded-ibis-publications.html' title='Jaded Ibis Publications'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1033950823990060383</id><published>2011-02-10T19:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-10T19:40:45.599-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='David Mitchell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Cloud Atlas'/><title type='text'>David Mitchell's CLOUD ATLAS</title><content type='html'>David Mitchell's 2004 novel &lt;i&gt;Cloud Atlas&amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;is on a lot of people's lists as one of the best innovative novels of the last decade, and for good reason. So far in my read it is symphonic in its structure and reach, virtuosic in its command of style and texture, and a fantastic, fast read all in one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book is divided into six very distinct narratives, taking place decades and even centuries apart, with different plots and characters in each. Five of the six narratives appear twice. If the narratives are represented by letters, they go as follows — a,b,c,d,e,f,e,d,c,b,a.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Right now, I have completed the first three narratives, a,b, and c. a is entitled "The Pacific Journal of Adam Ewing." It concerns a man who begged his way on board a Dutch ship as it went east across the Pacific to San Francisco in the1830's.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an example of a few typical sentences: "Torgny the Swede knocked on my coffin (i.e. cabin) door. Surprized and intrigued by his fertive manner, I bade him enter. He seated himself upon a 'pyramid' of hawser and whispered that he bore a proposal from a ring of shipmates. 'Tell us where the best veins are, the secret ones you locals are keeping for yourselves. Me 'n' my fellows'll do the pack work. You'll just sit pretty and we'll cut you in a tenth share."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Torgny was referring to California mining fields, which he assumed Ewing was aware of. What's of interest in this passage is the pompous and melodramatic word choices: "bade" rather than "asked." "pyramid" instead of "pile." "Whispered" instead of "spoke quietly." "Ring" instead of "group." In this little paragraph we learn a lot about Ewing and, since he is the narrator, a lot about the narrative as well. It is pompous, overblown, and not particularly observant. Why should Ewing trust Torgny?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The next section is also in first person. It is entitled "Letters From Zedelghem" and is set in Belgium in the early 1930's. A young musician and composer, Robert Frobisher, is serving as an aid to Ayrs, a great, but elderly musician. Together, the two of them begin to excite the music world once again. Frobisher's writing is tighter, more direct, often leaves out the assumed subject, and is cynical and skeptical. In other words, miles from that of Ewing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Cause for minor celebrations. Two days ago. Ayrs and I completed our first collaboration, a short tone poem, "Der Todtenvogel." When I unearthed the piece, it was a tame arrangement of an old Teutonic anthem, left high and very dry by Ayrs's retreating eyesight. Our new version is an intriguing animal. It borrows resonances form Wagner's &lt;i&gt;Ring&lt;/i&gt;, then disintegrates the theme into a Stravinskyesque nightmare policed by Sibelian wraiths. Horrible, delectable, wish you could hear it. Ends in a flute solo, no flutterbying flautism this, but the death-bird of the title, cursing the first-born and last-born alike."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All of Frobisher's writings are letters to his friend Sixsmith. We may question his behavior: he apparently sends over a valuable book he had no right to to Frobisher so that he could have some money. Frobisher's sense of himself is quite high. He punches out verbs with no subjects, banging away at the idea that he had perhaps more to do with the creation of these pieces than he is given credit for. It's a fascinating juxtaposition -- the dry, worldly Frobisher versus the foolish, melodramatic Ewing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one explicit connection between the two. While in Belgium, Frobisher comes across a copy of Ewing's diary and reads it. Other than that the connection is nebulous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not so with the next narrative, "Half-Lives: The First Luis Rey Mystery." Here, the Sixsmith of the previous narrative is in his 60's, it is now the 1970's, and he is a scientist working for an energy company building nuclear power plants. He has found out compromising information, and they may want to kill him for it. The 39 pieces tend to be straightforward, third-person vignettes told from the perspective of more or less one character. They are a page-turning mystery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't want to go into it any deep other than to say it's a genre piece: it is a mystery, filled with the sort of clichéd talk and clichéd characters you might expect there. What rescues it? Well, that it is in the middle of a novel with such interesting stuff going on around it. I am not yet sure why it is here and what it is doing. But it was fun to read. More later as I move through this important work.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1033950823990060383?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1033950823990060383/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/david-mitchells-cloud-atlas.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1033950823990060383'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1033950823990060383'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/david-mitchells-cloud-atlas.html' title='David Mitchell&apos;s CLOUD ATLAS'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7675362294342968683</id><published>2011-02-06T12:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-06T12:46:39.722-08:00</updated><title type='text'>5 Short Poems</title><content type='html'>&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;exhaustion marks &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the beginning of thinking, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;not the end:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;what of the sentence&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;that lingers and languors&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;picking up &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;whatever hangs around&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;until it means itself&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;and opposites too&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and then the misstepping&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;dancer fakes it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;just right&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;very few catch it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and those that do&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;admire her&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;for it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;before the wish&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;before the thought&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;before the wild&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;and the tamed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;there is the wave&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the rhythm&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the pulse&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to ride&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;   &lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;to be bare and lost&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to stand before the blankness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to wonder into a void&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;to stand with no feet&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to breathe with no lungs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to hear with no ears&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to smell with no nose&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to touch with no skin —&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;fear and possibility&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Times New Roman";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }table.MsoNormalTable { font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }&lt;/style&gt;    &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;scent-encing my way&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;across a prairie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;hoping to find&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the lit house&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;it could be&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;around the bend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;straight forward&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;but I don't know&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;what is a bend&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;or what is straight&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 200%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;just now&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;   &lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7675362294342968683?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7675362294342968683/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/5-short-poems.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7675362294342968683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7675362294342968683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/02/5-short-poems.html' title='5 Short Poems'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6555715902146711375</id><published>2011-01-30T08:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-30T19:50:03.617-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Landscape Painted With Tea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>LANDSCAPE PAINTED WITH TEA by Milorad Pavic</title><content type='html'>I simply couldn't get my hands around this complex, dense, ambitious, playful 1988 novel (translated 1990). So, I decided to look at what some critics and reviewers had to say. Well, I dug into some databases and couldn't get beyond any simple reviews. However, it was interesting that the reviewers didn't all agree on what happens at the end of the book, at what the solution to the crossword, at the center of the book, is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The story centers around Atanas Svilar and his second wife, Vitacha Razin. A brilliant but failed architect, Svilar searches for where his father was killed in WWII. He finds out he was betrayed in a monastery. While there Svilar also learns that he is not fated to be an architect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this point, the book becomes a crossword. The reader can choose to read it across -- straight through in a conventional manner -- or down.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this section Atanas leaves his wife and children for his first love, Vitacha Razin, and they put down roots in California where Svilar changes his name to Razin and makes millions of dollars selling a toxic defoliant to the government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What characterizes his prose more than anything else is his magical, agrarian images supporting stories loaded with digressions. One of the most fascinating digressions concerns the monk who actually turned in his father. He frequently wears his clothes backwards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one critical article on this book that I came across. It is by Jasmina Mihalovic and entitled "Landscape Painted With Teas as an Ecological Novel." It is fascinating the way the article sees this book as a call away from alienation and back to "the art of living." It sees the book as cautiously optimistic, I think it would be safe to say, even if it is a highly stylized Satan, in this topsy-turvy world, who ends up as Savior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The picture in &lt;i&gt;Landscape Painted with Tea &lt;/i&gt;of the upside down world of historical and perverted reality is the reflection of our own selves. The cathartic power of the book as a mirror should prevent the headlong plunge into nothingness and should return to the world its lost essence and internal balance." (The Review of Contemporary Fiction, Summer 1988)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's interesting that this apparently Slavic author of this article believes in such things as "internal balance." It would seem to be the furthest thing from what a Postmodernist would believe. Pavic collage and montage techniques are both Modernist and Postmodernist, but I don't know if his ultimate sensibility is. In an interview with Thanassis Lallas, Pavic describes himself as "always trying to act as an ancient epic poet...To me the best literature is oral...To understand how someboy writes a novel, you must feel the breath of the book." (Review of Contemporary Fiction, Summer 1988)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could it be translation difficulties that are bringing these seeming incongruities up? I don't think so. Here I point out Pavic's imagery, something that is easy to translate. Yes, it is often magical, but the magical elements are made up of agrarian elements. There is a nostalgia in Pavic's writing, that is sometimes explicitly stated. It's not naive. It's not conservative. It feels as if we need to get back to our own, specific,&amp;nbsp; historical moment when reading him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'll repeat that:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It feels as if we need to get back to our own, specific, historical moment when reading him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not entirely sure what that means. But it feels so accurate, I'm going with it. Obviously, we feel many other things when reading him. For me, this is predominate.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6555715902146711375?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6555715902146711375/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/landscape-painted-with-tea-by-milorad.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6555715902146711375'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6555715902146711375'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/landscape-painted-with-tea-by-milorad.html' title='LANDSCAPE PAINTED WITH TEA by Milorad Pavic'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7225210181631981015</id><published>2011-01-24T17:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-24T17:55:15.477-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Landscape Painted With Tea'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Close Read of Passage from Pavic's LANDSCAPE PAINTED WITH TEA</title><content type='html'>The character of Amalia Riznich is introduced as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"'October has never come as often as this year; every time you turn around, there it is again. At least three times ahead of schedule...'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus whispered Miss Amalia Riznich in German into her Sévres cup. For the past one hundred years, her family had spoken German in autumn, Polish or Russian in winter, Greek in Spring and Serbian only in summer, as befits a family of grain merchants. All past and future seasons thus blended in her consciousness into a single eternal season, resembling itself as hunger does hunger. Spring merged with spring, Russian with Russian, winter with winter, and only summer, which was enclosing Miss Riznich now, broke step with this sequence to take for a moment, but only a moment, its temporary calendar place between spring and autumn, between Greek and German." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My overriding response to this passage is perplexity. Why does it befit a family of grain merchants to speak a variety of languages over the course of a year? Why would all seasons blending into one another resemble "itself as hunger does hunger"? Why is it that only when speaking Serbian does she "break step with this sequence"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is something magical here, suggesting that the Riznich family traces its origins to the agrarian rhythms of the seasons, and their suborning language to these rhythms. They are grain merchants, and dependent on this agrarian rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But why aren't they farmers? Aren't they more agrarian than merchants? Yes, but they are not rich. Pavic needed to create a rich family in order to give this, at times, fairy tale-like story the necessary gravitas. These are ancient people from ancient lines coming together fully only in summer, in the Serbian present, when their own language spills from their lips as they live the most carefree season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book was published in 1990. Could he have been asking for Yugoslavia to stay together? It broke up a couple years after the publication of the &lt;i&gt;Landscape Painted With Tea. &lt;/i&gt;By this time, Pavic was an important voice that people heeded. We learn elsewhere that these notebooks are filled with information about Tito, the Yugoslavian Communist strongman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I suspect both readings hold up: the magical, fairy tale agrarian one and the political one. I prefer the former because it seems less tethered to a specific time and place.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7225210181631981015?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7225210181631981015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/close-read-of-passage-from-pavics.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7225210181631981015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7225210181631981015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/close-read-of-passage-from-pavics.html' title='Close Read of Passage from Pavic&apos;s LANDSCAPE PAINTED WITH TEA'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4574011507840744326</id><published>2011-01-23T10:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-23T10:52:20.550-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>easing into traffic&lt;br /&gt;wishing I could stay home&lt;br /&gt;today is my favorite show&lt;br /&gt;but obligations call&lt;br /&gt;and I am still&lt;br /&gt;easing&lt;br /&gt;then cussing&lt;br /&gt;still wishing&lt;br /&gt;and cussing&lt;br /&gt;I might get there on time&lt;br /&gt;for something I hate doing&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4574011507840744326?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4574011507840744326/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/easing-into-traffic-wishing-i-could.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4574011507840744326'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4574011507840744326'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/easing-into-traffic-wishing-i-could.html' title=''/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3350172133879828975</id><published>2011-01-23T10:49:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-23T10:49:46.856-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>liminal like&lt;br /&gt;the last day of autumn&lt;br /&gt;like the edge of cotton&lt;br /&gt;liminal like&lt;br /&gt;the way&lt;br /&gt;guesses caress&lt;br /&gt;the truth&lt;br /&gt;every edge has&lt;br /&gt;a reason&lt;br /&gt;if we give it&lt;br /&gt;one&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3350172133879828975?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3350172133879828975/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/liminal-like-last-day-of-autumn-like.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3350172133879828975'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3350172133879828975'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/liminal-like-last-day-of-autumn-like.html' title=''/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4040146644907489456</id><published>2011-01-16T16:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-16T16:56:41.320-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='AACM'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Roscoe Mitchell'/><title type='text'>Roscoe Mitchell's THE FAR SIDE</title><content type='html'>My review of jazz saxophonist Roscoe Mitchell's latest release is up at the &lt;a href="http://www.jazzpolice.com/content/view/9415/79/"&gt;Jazz Police&lt;/a&gt; website. Mitchell is a member of the Art Ensemble of Chicago and of the Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4040146644907489456?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4040146644907489456/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/roscoe-mitchells-far-side.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4040146644907489456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4040146644907489456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/roscoe-mitchells-far-side.html' title='Roscoe Mitchell&apos;s THE FAR SIDE'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6791813548206950356</id><published>2011-01-13T08:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-13T08:40:39.989-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Last Love in Constantinople'/><title type='text'>Pavic's LAST LOVE IN CONSTANTINOPLE: A Tarot Novel For Divination</title><content type='html'>For background on Pavic, see my many entries on him by looking him up in the list of topics to the right or by going to this webpage: &lt;a href="http://www.khazars.com/en/%20-"&gt;Milorad Pavic Homepage&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of Pavic's last works, this fascinating book can be read one of two ways: straight through from beginning to end or based on various tarot readings. A pack of tarot cards is provided, and as well as models of the various ways of laying out the cards. Every chapter of the book coincides with one of the cards, so it is possible to read the book in the order demanded by the tarots rather than front to back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I read the book twice: once front to back, and once using the tarot method. I suggest that anyone who wants to tackle the book do as I did because things get confusing if you don't have a overall, global sense of the book. This may, in fact, be a criticism of Pavic because it means that the book is difficult, if not impossible, to be read in a wholly reversible manner. By 'reversible' I refer to Pavic's wanting to write novels that were like sculptures or paintings in that there was no linearity to how viewers work their way around the art object. But this is hardly damning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book is about the hostile and friendly interactions between three families, the Opujic's, the Tenecki's, and the Kalopervic's around the turn of the 19th century. The hostile aspect has to do with them fighting on different sides of a war between Serbia (I think), and France. The friendly aspect has to to with intermarriages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each chapter is a fairly self-contained story about members of these families. They are replete with magic: a woman growing out of a tail, a man having three deaths, an ability to hear below ground, and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Randomness, of course, is at the structural heart of the book. In a way, it takes the place of the traditional plot. With all the magic and the wild characters it adds up to a book that presents us with a world that is in many ways ordered according to our imaginations. Yes, it is true that the cards we are dealt are random and we have no control over them. But we do have control over how we respond to them and interpret them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a bouyancy and ebullience to this book. It revels in how magical stories can be and, in addition, how magical we can be if we let ourselves.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6791813548206950356?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6791813548206950356/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/pavics-last-love-in-constantinople.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6791813548206950356'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6791813548206950356'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/pavics-last-love-in-constantinople.html' title='Pavic&apos;s LAST LOVE IN CONSTANTINOPLE: A Tarot Novel For Divination'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2813343465796058909</id><published>2011-01-06T14:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-01-19T03:30:14.397-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>A Critique of Milorad Pavic</title><content type='html'>I am surprised at how many well-informed people remain unfamiliar with Milorad Pavic's brilliant 1984 novel &lt;i&gt;Dictionary of the Khazars&lt;/i&gt;, English translation 1988 by Christina Pribcevic-Zoric. The book is about determining the Khazar Polemic, or which of the Abrahamic religions the lost people known as the Khazars ultimately converted to. This provides the platform for Pavic's wildly imaginitivate leaping across centuries, across fact and fantasy, from reality to myth. Charles Fenyvesi actually said that Pavic "writes with such imaginative cultural extension as to make Garcia Marquez seem like James Mitchener."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book is a cross-referenced dictionary of events and people divided into three parts: Christian, Jewish, and Muslim. Readers are literally encouraged to read the book in any order they prefer. Pavic wants his novels to be "reversible art," meaning that it does not have a beginning or ending. It is like sculpture or painting: it can be seen from different angles, and the viewer moves about it freely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's more, the book comes in two versions, the male and the female. One crucial paragraph is different in the two. Thereby, Pavic forces the book to remain open, to always invite another reversible reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A very interesting, although very unconvincing, critique of Pavic is developed by Andrew Wachtel in his article "Postmodernism as Nightmare: Milorad Pavic's Literary Demolition of Yugoslavia" in a 1997 issue of &lt;i&gt;The Slavic and East European Journal.&lt;/i&gt; Now I am not interested in writing a boring entry that critiques an obscure academic article. Rather, I find myself challenged by the ideas Wachtel brings forth. He should be heard.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is his argument in skeletal form:&lt;br /&gt;--He takes his definition of postmodernism from Lyotard, profound skepticism about metanarratives.&lt;br /&gt;--He says that postmodernism developed in stable states in Western Europe and North America where such skepticism would not bring down "the whole house of cards." In Yugoslavia during the 80's it did a lot of harm by being one factor in causing the metanarrative that made Yugoslavia possible become questioned. The result was civil war.&lt;br /&gt;--The Enlightenment inspired meta-narrative proved a necessity for Yugoslavia; it was a luxury for what Wachtel implies are Ivory Tower intellectuals of the West.&lt;br /&gt;--Postmodernism appeared in Yugoslavia just as the country started to disintegrate.&lt;br /&gt;--In Yugoslavia, imaginitave literature was a high-status activity that provided the country with its narratives. In such a cultural milieu, it's not an exaggeration to say that a work of fiction played a role in causing a country to fail.&lt;br /&gt;--Early in Yugoslavia's history, emphasis was placed on the unity of the Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes, not their differences. Intellectuals at the time saw the importance of cultural figures in forming the notion of a Yugoslav and a Yugoslavian state. Conversely, Postmodernism lauds difference over unity.&lt;br /&gt;--By the 60's, ethnic difference was being emphasized more. What kept the country together was supra-national Communism, i.e. ideology, and cultural concerns were secondary.&lt;br /&gt;--A number of novelists began to question and unravel the metanarrative of nationalist unity. This article will look at Pavic's novel.&lt;br /&gt;--The purported structural complexity of Pavic's novel is actually a gimmick. It actually has a conventional plot centering around two questions: What religion did the Khazars convert to in the 9th century and why do representatives of the various religions come together to try to solve the problem?&lt;br /&gt;--When investigating in later centuries, each religion is convinced that their religion was chosen by the Khazars.&lt;br /&gt;--This is Wachtel's crucial point: this is a radically relavitizing vision of history that leaves us with only language games and not unifying narratives.&lt;br /&gt;--Wachtel prefers the novelist Ivo Andric's novel &lt;i&gt;The Bridge over the Drina&lt;/i&gt; to Pavic's because it acknowledges the various views of history held by the Muslims, Christians and other groups in Yugoslavia, but then it worked to find, and did find, the truth.&lt;br /&gt;--Pavic's novel was hugely popular and influential in Serbia. It helped to deligitimize any claim for truth, leading to disunity and, Wachtel implies, ultimately a might is right situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I find most intriguing about this argument is that Wachtel is arguing that various cultures can withstand postmodernist critique better than others. I also really appreciate that he takes literature so seriously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know that Pavic would call himself a Postmodernist. Based on an interview in the Review of Contemporary Fiction, he would seem to be a theist! In addition, by placing the truth, ie what the Khazars converted to, in an impenetrable, agrarian past of myth-like and folkloric stories, his book is a lot more like Genesis than it is like Federman's &lt;i&gt;Double or Nothing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What makes the novel seem so innovative is its structure. It is innovative, but not as much as it might seem. Essentially, it is an episodic novel put together so that readers can encounter the sections in the order they choose. It's Cervante's gone choose your own adventure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, the real reason to read Pavic isn't his structural innovation. It's the magically fertile nature of his mind, that leads to some of the most surprising sentences and passages imaginable. See my March 24 post to see examples of these sentences.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2813343465796058909?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2813343465796058909/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/critique-of-milorad-pavic.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2813343465796058909'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2813343465796058909'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2011/01/critique-of-milorad-pavic.html' title='A Critique of Milorad Pavic'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5939775256140856482</id><published>2010-12-30T12:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-30T12:21:03.827-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Room 4</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;a room is not a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;/level/ &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;room when&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the ceiling caves&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;because of a weight&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;like indecision&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;on the roof&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5939775256140856482?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5939775256140856482/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/room-4.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5939775256140856482'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5939775256140856482'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/room-4.html' title='Room 4'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1359535292953844824</id><published>2010-12-30T12:16:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-30T12:16:34.178-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Ideology 13</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;code drift&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;like guesses&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;reverberating through a system&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;from skin through synapse&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;through wire through&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;grid&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;into venues&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;the guesser never&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;could know&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1359535292953844824?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1359535292953844824/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ideology-13.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1359535292953844824'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1359535292953844824'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ideology-13.html' title='Ideology 13'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-735534188819654712</id><published>2010-12-30T12:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-30T12:15:13.073-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Ideology 14</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;not much remarkable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;other than bones&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;aching through&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;the afternoon &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;calling us into stupor and longing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;the wishes climb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;the walls and every&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;tomcat in the neighborhood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;cries into the dampness&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-735534188819654712?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/735534188819654712/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ideology-14.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/735534188819654712'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/735534188819654712'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ideology-14.html' title='Ideology 14'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6679534073578677488</id><published>2010-12-17T11:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-17T11:52:44.746-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Purgatory Hill at Palmer's Bar</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon_Bay,_Wisconsin"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_MacDonald"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_MacDonald"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/lowebow/guitars.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://lavenderearth.com/Xanadu/lowebow.htm"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/lowebow/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://ricksaunders.blogspot.com/2008/05/johnny-lowebow-this-aint-no-prom-blues.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.myspace.com/johnnylowebow"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Last night we at Palmer's Bar in Minneapolis were treated to a visit by the inimitable two-person band Purgatory Hill. Composed of Pat MacDonald and melaniejane, they have one of the most unique sounds in all of American music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MacDonald is a master at an instrument known as a Lowebow. Created by John Lowe, it consists of a square box with electric controls at one end and two dowels about the size of broomsticks coming out the other. Here is a &lt;a href="http://picture/"&gt;picture&lt;/a&gt; and another &lt;a href="http://www.purgatoryhill.com/fr_purgatoryhill.cfm"&gt;one&lt;/a&gt;. MacDonald plays the lowebow with plenty of bottom and with a merciless, slashing slide. All the while he kicks out the beat on an electric stomp board, and sometimes plays a lonely and fragile-sounding harmonica on top of it all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Purgatory Hill's music is boogie with a bad face, in all meanings of the word "bad." It is groovy, scary, and deeper than deep. While MacDonald plays his chunky, hard-bottom funk,&amp;nbsp; melaniejane ferociously shakes and bangs castenets, tambourines, bells, and other percussion instruments like a woman possessed. Sometimes she crashes the tambourine into the handle of the bells to create a textured and multileveled ringing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lyrics are about desperation, obsession, and actual prayers for redemption, to "reset me lord." The strange thing is this music does not sound as if it comes from a theistic universe. It is the music of wanting a lord in the face of psychological devastation and severe desperation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I left Palmer's Bar at 2 a.m. feeling good. The music is danceable, and ended up being cathartic. MacDonald's music, with all of it's darkness, wrung all my troubles out of me. He brought me into a dark, dark place filled with anger and obsession, only to then leave me free for a time.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6679534073578677488?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6679534073578677488/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/purgatory-hill-at-palmers-bar.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6679534073578677488'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6679534073578677488'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/purgatory-hill-at-palmers-bar.html' title='Purgatory Hill at Palmer&apos;s Bar'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4873113520376991417</id><published>2010-12-12T06:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-12T06:47:16.204-08:00</updated><title type='text'>it's the pits</title><content type='html'>the snow killed my snowblower&lt;br /&gt;I smell like gasoline&lt;br /&gt;I think I have to sneeze&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the snow covers the windows&lt;br /&gt;thank god the furnace didn't die&lt;br /&gt;we are stupid and less than sly&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;what would the neighbors do&lt;br /&gt;left in their houses of snow&lt;br /&gt;except die from cirrhosis&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;exaggeration whistles its stop&lt;br /&gt;the snow hardened into drifts&lt;br /&gt;this is like dying, it's the pits&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4873113520376991417?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4873113520376991417/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/snow-killed-my-snowblower-i-smell-like.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4873113520376991417'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4873113520376991417'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/snow-killed-my-snowblower-i-smell-like.html' title='it&apos;s the pits'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8480024640119343151</id><published>2010-12-11T08:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-12T14:14:09.794-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Story in UNREQUIRED READING</title><content type='html'>I have egg on my face. This entry originally said I had a story in THE BEST AMERICAN NONREQUIRED READING OF 2010. That's not accurate. My story was selected as "noteworthy" in a section in the back -- a lot less fancy. Oh well, there are worse embarrassments.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8480024640119343151?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8480024640119343151/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/story-in-unrequired-reading.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8480024640119343151'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8480024640119343151'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/story-in-unrequired-reading.html' title='Story in UNREQUIRED READING'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5311610026668139736</id><published>2010-12-11T08:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-30T12:24:43.097-08:00</updated><title type='text'>like</title><content type='html'>let it come like&lt;br /&gt;snow like the breeze&lt;br /&gt;like the air blowing&lt;br /&gt;in from the furnace&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;let it come like&lt;br /&gt;breath like blinking&lt;br /&gt;like an empty car&lt;br /&gt;warming on a cold day&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;let it come like&lt;br /&gt;microwave cooking&lt;br /&gt;like blood like&amp;nbsp;melting&lt;br /&gt;snow on the roof&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;let it come like&lt;br /&gt;branches drooping&amp;nbsp;like&lt;br /&gt;a phone's ring like&lt;br /&gt;skin turning to dust&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;let it come like&lt;br /&gt;a grey sky like&amp;nbsp;drifting&lt;br /&gt;snow like a plow's&lt;br /&gt;roar and rattle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and let it go like&lt;br /&gt;demands and derivitives&lt;br /&gt;like a mind&lt;br /&gt;just not knowing&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br class="webkit-block-placeholder" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5311610026668139736?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5311610026668139736/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/let-it-come-like-snow-like-breeze-like.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5311610026668139736'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5311610026668139736'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/let-it-come-like-snow-like-breeze-like.html' title='like'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-105949348480627834</id><published>2010-12-08T09:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-08T09:08:38.271-08:00</updated><title type='text'>BARTLEBY, THE SPORTSCASTER, by Ted Pelton</title><content type='html'>This novella is far from an attempt to mirror reality or to point out how artificial novels are. It is neither realism nor metafiction.&amp;nbsp; Instead, it uses intimate experience to approach a literary classic in a manner that reinterprets it. It also uses the literary classic to consider experience in a profoundly personal way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This novella is a triple-allegory: experience allegorizes literature and literature allegorizes experience. Finally, Pelton's book serves as an allegory for the original "Bartleby."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Bartleby" is originally a story by Herman Melville. It concerns a law scrivener, or copywriter, in a 19th-century law office. The lawyer hires Bartleby and is stunned at his output, but haunted by his person and demeanor. He once describes him"scarcely human." A series of strange incidents ensue. The lawyer finds Bartleby living in his offices. Then Bartleby "prefers not to" do any more copying. Instead, he just stands silently in the middle of the office while work goes on around him. I won't spoil the ending, in case you haven't read it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pelton's book, "Bartleby, the Sportscaster," the lawyer is replaced by a minor-league sportscaster. He is joined in the booth by Bartleby. Pelton's story differs from Melville's in an important detail: The sportscaster, Ray Yarzejski, is forced to work with Bartleby by the team owner, Simonelli. This proves crucial because in the original Bartleby the lawyer was somewhat responsible for Bartleby given that he hired him. In Pelton's case, Bartleby and his eccentricities were thrust upon Yarzejski. Yet, he reaches out to Bartleby repeatedly, as does the lawyer in the original story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most original part of this book is chapter 5, where Pelton suddenly breaks in and provides us with a memoir of his, Pelton's, real break up with his first wife. In it we learn that his wife became mentally and emotionally paralyzed by a number of personal and familial circumstances. Pelton tried to get her out of her funk, but it all failed. He tells us how he became more sympathetic toward the lawyer in "Bartleby." He used to see the lawyer as the law-giving oppressor forcing Bartleby to live a certain way. Now he saw him as trying to help Bartleby.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's where Pelton decided to bifurcate the lawyer into two characters, Simonelli and Yarzejski — one is sympathetic and one is, well, capitalist scum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is where the allegories begin to be clear: the experience with his wife is compared to the lawyer's experience with Bartleby. Pelton's original interpretation of Bartleby is compared to Simonelli's behavior. Pelton's sympathy for his wife is compared to Yarzejski's feelings for Bartleby, Pelton's and Melville's books as a whole are comparable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Comparison, of course, is the heart of allegory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book raises fascinating questions about the way the stories we tell each other affect the way we treat each other and the way we understand how we treat one another. This book is not "postmodern" or "metafiction," where the very makings of the novel are exposed in their artifice. This book takes the artificiality of the novel as a given, then offers us something new. While this is a funny book in many places, it is a dead serious book in a way many so-called postmodern works didn't seem to be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It feels as if the author is convinced that literature and stories matter. Absolutely. Novels may be constructions, but they are necessary constructions that set up allegories with experience, if we let them.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-105949348480627834?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/105949348480627834/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/bartleby-sportscaster-by-ted-pelton.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/105949348480627834'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/105949348480627834'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/bartleby-sportscaster-by-ted-pelton.html' title='BARTLEBY, THE SPORTSCASTER, by Ted Pelton'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1464021338576580515</id><published>2010-12-07T08:05:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-07T08:05:52.830-08:00</updated><title type='text'>hat was merely</title><content type='html'>The hat was merely  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;dropped. No&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;matter. It is what&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;was needed at the time&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to get your simple&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;attention, to articulate&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a necessary instant.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I wanted you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;A hat showed that just fine,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;evidently.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Then the rest of the&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;universe trailed behind&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;us like ants.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Until we grew bereft&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the right signs,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;like hats&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;like ants.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1464021338576580515?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1464021338576580515/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/hat-was-merely.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1464021338576580515'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1464021338576580515'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/hat-was-merely.html' title='hat was merely'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8350427754687507583</id><published>2010-12-06T19:14:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-11T19:25:47.890-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Ctheory.net</title><content type='html'>I came across the above site, edited by&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;Arthur and Marilouise Kroker, which explores the way digital technologies have affected, infected, formed, taken over, mixed with and so on contemporary experience. The essay that has meant the most to me so far is entitled "&lt;a href="http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=633"&gt;Code Drift&lt;/a&gt;." The thesis seems to be that human evolution is now tied up with the drift of code as it is absorbed, remixed, and rearranged. Creativity stems from random combinations and recombinations of code, not from individual genius. While it is true that individual human beings do the recombining, it is the code itself, both local and global, that is the source of this recombining, the individual is merely the occasion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;Here are some quotations from the beginning of "Code Drift."&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;We want to argue that data has come alive in the form of our extended network of technological organs, that the growth of information culture is the real world of evolutionary development literally, not metaphorically.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;digital cosmology&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt; has its own laws of motion -- &lt;i&gt;code drift; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;its politics are based on the deeply paradoxical situation of our being &lt;i&gt;tethered to mobility&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;the beginning of something fundamentally new is now upon ... this new onrushing event of code drift, tethered mobility, enhanced data flesh, and digital trauma.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8350427754687507583?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8350427754687507583/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ctheorynet.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8350427754687507583'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8350427754687507583'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/ctheorynet.html' title='Ctheory.net'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8933312244472429814</id><published>2010-12-06T17:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-06T18:58:45.813-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Code</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Who was ready for the immediate mutation of the human species into half-flesh/half-code?"&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; — &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Arthur and Marilouise Kroker&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;in your ears the sounds&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;of another century&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;recorded in another&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;decade&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;framing your walk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;down a busy city street&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;past a market with a fruit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;stand out onto the sidewalk,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;under a roof&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;over the sidewalk&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;to protect pedestrians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;during construction&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;bumping into people&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;saying "sorry"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;and sensing only&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;the slightest echo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;of your word in the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;bones of your jaw and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="authordate"&gt;ear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Reader — give no significance&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to the connotation &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the word "sorry"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;it is just what&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;she said&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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title='Code'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1932533150725017339</id><published>2010-12-05T16:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-06T11:06:27.259-08:00</updated><title type='text'>made long ago and elsewhere</title><content type='html'>&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;with little reason, &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;gone running&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;give the&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;best bestial cry and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;issue a less than solid&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;ultimatum — &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;lives hang&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;in the grey haze&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;the grassy base&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;the torn, thorny tube&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;while your insistence&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;walks down a long&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;narrow hall&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;plenty else waits&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;in various&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;unknown rooms&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;around unlit&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;corners &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;wishing you&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;would do for them &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;dependence and you&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;are dependence&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;elsewhere&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;someone says,&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;"this is a trial"&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;and the curtain&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;shimmers&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;across the side&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;of your path&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;you could go there&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;or here or here&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;none is&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;more insistent&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;and on your&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;choice may hang&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;nothing less&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;than a swoosh or&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;a creak —&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;may &lt;/pre&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1932533150725017339?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1932533150725017339/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/made-long-ago-and-elsewhere.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1932533150725017339'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1932533150725017339'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/made-long-ago-and-elsewhere.html' title='made long ago and elsewhere'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5929254388998140584</id><published>2010-12-04T17:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-12-04T18:01:01.453-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Debra Di Blasi, Miekal And, and Vernon Frazer at Moriapoetry.com</title><content type='html'>I am going to do a series entries where I discuss material that is readily available on the web. This has two advantages: 1) you readers can have ready access to it, and 2) I won't have to buy anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today, I am discussing writing at &lt;a href="http://moriapoetry.com/"&gt;Moriapoetry.com&lt;/a&gt; All three pieces are in the current issue: Debra Di Blasi, Miekal And, and Vernon Fraser.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;a href="http://www.moriapoetry.com/diblasi.html"&gt;Debra&lt;/a&gt;'s is a fascinating piece of visual poetry. It appears to be two pages frayed from a larger book entitled "What the frond delivers." It looks like an illustrated novel or even an illuminated manuscript, but the sharp edges and off-kilter repetitions of the word "frond" give it an uneasy, maybe even menacing look.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then comes the writing. While it looks to be two frayed pages from a prose work, it is definitely prose poetry. It is thorny, difficult and syntactically radical. Thematically, it also addresses ponds and dragonflies and other things associated with lots of fronds near the water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also come to see there is a third-, then first-person narrative buried in the thick language, language as "green pea" dark, thick, and full of fronds as any lake side. It tells the story of a male twin, apparently a drowning victim, saving his twin sister as she goes down screaming, three times.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Diane refers to her at one point as "Little Miss Nobreath." Then later comes, "Golly, Mother." The tone is at times so flippant, that the subject matter is almost not able to come forth. When it does, it is all the more horrifying. The girl almost doesn't make it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second page gives the dead boy twin's perspective: "Was I pushed you through the jade blades." It also falls into Gerard Manley Hopkins sprung rhythm, even using some of his famous words "doppledreams," 'dappled." Characterized by internal rhyme and alliteration, sprung rhythm allows for a lot of repetition and reinforcement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These two pages show what the green fronds deliver: life and death. The murkiness of green lake water, water dark as jade, we come from and go to. The text is surrounded by green on the side of death, and blue on the side of life. But the green will always swallow the blue, "that dreamy place my twin still hides, biding his time until my time's up."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) &lt;a href="http://www.moriapoetry.com/and0909.html"&gt;Miekal And&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would have no idea what to do with this piece if I didn't know some of what Miekal has been up to the last decade or so. He is fascinated, if I understand him right, with the various relations between fonts and nature. I recall seeing one piece of his which had letters hanging in trees. Was the concept that letters grow from our nature, which is connected to wider nature, namely, trees?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This piece looks to me like a hide. On it are pictures, but they seem to be pictures verging on fonts. The philosopher Maurice Merleau-Ponty famously observed that song, historically and developmentally, precedes speech. In a similar manner, drawing precedes fonts. Written language evolves out of drawing. In this piece we see one font that is repeated. It is the second from left on top and the third down on the far right. This may be a representation of beginning of writing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Leaving Miekal's piece at this level is a little unfair. There are other things to consider such as how the light is hitting the piece, the resemblance to animals and people that many fonts have, and the sheer beauty of the fonts themselves. One value of work such as this is that it helps us to see fonts rather than simply reading through and past them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) &lt;a href="http://www.moriapoetry.com/frazer0909.html"&gt;Vernon Frazer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Writing about nonrepresentational language is also difficult. How do we contextualize a line such as&amp;nbsp; "salmon feet" in "The Future Brings"? Obviously, we can't, if we try to look at it from a representational point of view. Instead, we have sound and rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How do we say this piece, and these pieces, work, as I think they do? How are they different from a child randomly putting magnetic poetry words on a refrigerator? What skill does it take?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has tremendous energy, coming I think from all the active verbs, including some interesting ones such as "mottle." The energy itself is excessive, pushing the language and spilling beyond semantic limits and into alternative spaces. It's exciting. Finally, the poem is an event, not a meaning. It's about this excessive excitement, together with the rhythm and sounds riffing throughout.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the answer to why it's better than magnetic poetry: there's a controlled excessiveness, that breaks the taboo of "making sense," but does so in a musical way that keeps the poem from spinning apart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I don't think there is any more to say.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5929254388998140584?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5929254388998140584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/debra-di-blasi-miekal-and-and-vernon.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5929254388998140584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5929254388998140584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/12/debra-di-blasi-miekal-and-and-vernon.html' title='Debra Di Blasi, Miekal And, and Vernon Frazer at Moriapoetry.com'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4000946619535343500</id><published>2010-11-28T19:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-28T19:28:47.437-08:00</updated><title type='text'>We Don't Read Mysteries For the Plot</title><content type='html'>We don't read mysteries for the plot. We read them for the characters and the genre. That's why there have been so many series with the same detective in them. We want to see the development of the character. But we also want that character to ultimately be safe. And that is the promise of genre. Doyle famously could not kill off Sherlock Holmes. This was a violation of the genre: it promises a return to order with all the central characters intact. It may be dark, but it is not tragic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In some ways, mysteries are an optimistic art form, rather than, say tragedy. Even hard-boiled mysteries revere justice. To not do so would be to violate the genre. The detective needs to be a hero who sacrifices much to create some justice in what seems, on the surface, a world ripe for cynics. But the cynicism is so often stylized, so often sentimentalized. What is not sentimentalized is the demand of the reader for a genre. This is what is most "real" about a mystery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another way of looking at mysteries is as a genre that lets all hell break loose only to clear things up nicely and neatly. I think this is generally not the case, although mysteries as a whole have been multitudinous. This much I am sure of: to break the dictates of the genre, which states that justice must be served in the end, is to write an anti-mystery. Paul Auster has written some anti-mysteries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mysteries are fun. Unlike horror stories, which are exciting. Mysteries promise a sort of mind game. Horror stories cause us to be sucked in by extravagance and excess, thereby losing ourselves into the fearful spectacle. Mysteries do not ask us to lose or leave ourselves.They ask us to wonder and ponder over a manageable and discreet set of possibilities. Neat, clean, efficient. Kinda bourgeois?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4000946619535343500?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4000946619535343500/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/we-dont-read-mysteries-for-plot.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4000946619535343500'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4000946619535343500'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/we-dont-read-mysteries-for-plot.html' title='We Don&apos;t Read Mysteries For the Plot'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5968235922168903721</id><published>2010-11-28T19:07:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-28T19:07:15.630-08:00</updated><title type='text'>the assault of the mice</title><content type='html'>1.&lt;br /&gt;in the time of computers &lt;br /&gt;and talking robots &lt;br /&gt;traps could never end&lt;br /&gt;the assault of the mice:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we are less than we hope&lt;br /&gt;which hangs out before&lt;br /&gt;us in clear, sharp relief&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;while here the talk is of&lt;br /&gt;mice in orifices of&lt;br /&gt;wall coating the heat&lt;br /&gt;with strange squeaks&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;they can't hurt us it's true&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but the aura is the thing&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;flitters, flakes of sound&lt;br /&gt;in the walls your blue&lt;br /&gt;eyes tell me news&lt;br /&gt;of a distant death brought&lt;br /&gt;close by technology&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;history now, here makes&lt;br /&gt;everywhere creepy, with possible&lt;br /&gt;dread always available&lt;br /&gt;in a screen the size of a hand&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;hope is beside the point&lt;br /&gt;it is merely an orientation point&lt;br /&gt;here we have walls&lt;br /&gt;where electrical wires and&lt;br /&gt;mice find their way&lt;br /&gt;work their way&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;we talk at angles and curves&lt;br /&gt;hope as orientation&lt;br /&gt;angles and curves&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and that's fine, enough,&lt;br /&gt;only too much hope says&lt;br /&gt;'it's not enough'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;getting down to angles and curves: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.&lt;br /&gt;a meteor last night&lt;br /&gt;chipped its way across&lt;br /&gt;the sky in a stutter like your&lt;br /&gt;sudden departure from whim and&lt;br /&gt;the cost of desire lost and pena-&lt;br /&gt;lized but no solid sentence&lt;br /&gt;available let the nailing&lt;br /&gt;down off the hook &lt;br /&gt;where are you going in this last issue of instance&lt;br /&gt;what could give you such pluck in the face of&lt;br /&gt;merriment the size of Crazy Horse's statue&lt;br /&gt;oh no the living isn't worth the aggravation which&lt;br /&gt;is in its way constant and not constant complications the merriment issued from&lt;br /&gt;a scratch in the throat the size of a small seed or nut roughing up the deliv-&lt;br /&gt;ery for a good long time but not forever compare pulses to trajectories&lt;br /&gt;waves to thrusts to tangents and the way becomes provisional per-&lt;br /&gt;haps lit by a small tangent of hope going all the way to the base&lt;br /&gt;of the thing and letting you see some sort of wavering trail&lt;br /&gt;but missing everything outside the light which matters&lt;br /&gt;too of course but not at that moment unless it&lt;br /&gt;suddenly throws itself into the scene&lt;br /&gt;surprising or menacing or perp-&lt;br /&gt;lexing will give no necessary&lt;br /&gt;show the light itself a&lt;br /&gt;condition of lithium&lt;br /&gt;of nature of even&lt;br /&gt;hope for them&lt;br /&gt;lasting&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5968235922168903721?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5968235922168903721/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/assault-of-mice.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5968235922168903721'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5968235922168903721'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/assault-of-mice.html' title='the assault of the mice'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3110539378448781175</id><published>2010-11-18T09:17:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-22T08:20:48.229-08:00</updated><title type='text'>outsizing</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;your bounded silence&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and tertiary code&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;sometimes mere&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;gravel ways&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;sometimes&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;black hearted&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;loam&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"&gt;sometimes brick&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;by brick&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;displeasure&lt;br /&gt;or inept&lt;br /&gt;secondary pain&lt;br /&gt;your wicked insistence?&lt;br /&gt;the genuine attempt?&lt;br /&gt;an aspect spun sharp?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;danger follows&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;like any breeze&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and ricochets&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;inside the layers &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;seemingly&amp;nbsp;genuine&lt;br /&gt;structures&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;strictures&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;beyond the size&lt;br /&gt;of sense&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3110539378448781175?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3110539378448781175/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/truths-outsizing-sense.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3110539378448781175'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3110539378448781175'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/truths-outsizing-sense.html' title='outsizing'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1642909188315663109</id><published>2010-11-17T14:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-11-17T14:28:51.937-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Paul Auster's THE NEW YORK TRILOGY</title><content type='html'>In the mid 80's Paul Auster wrote three novels that have come to be known as &lt;i&gt;The New York Trilogy: City of Glass, Ghosts, &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;The Locked Room. &lt;/i&gt;Each book is a destruction of the detective genre, one where a mystery and a detective are proposed, but the mystery only thickens and mutates rather than unravels. In a way, they are anti-mysteries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In his great introduction (I usually hate intros), Luc Sante points to how the books are about a part of New York City that has always been there but that we rarely notice; the passed over graffiti, the symmetry, the doubleness, the "surface flimsiness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a novel of neutrinos, those strange, sub-subatomic particles that move through matter as if it's nothing, that are right now moving through our bodies, that move through these books in the most haunting of ways. They carry no electric charge. They do not gather or orbit. They just stream.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What they touch, how they touch, if they touch is all unknown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As with these books. Does Peter Stillman walk the streets of Manhattan so that his wanderings will spell out "Tower of Babel"? Or does the character of Quinn just project this belief of his? What is the role, if any, of coincidence? of the higher order notion of "randomness"?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Again and again we are faced with the flatness of facts. Are the facts all there is? Or is there a story that unites them? If so, is it a discovered story or an invented one? If an invented one, then it is just one of many ways of dealing with the facts: there is no solution, not even close, to the mystery and, as we move through each book, mysteries, &lt;i&gt;plural,&lt;/i&gt; as they multiply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a New York riddled with possibility, haunted by the random, more than able to carry within itself contradiction after contradiction after contradiction. It is, paradoxically, a wilderness.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1642909188315663109?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1642909188315663109/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/paul-austers-new-york-trilogy.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1642909188315663109'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1642909188315663109'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/11/paul-austers-new-york-trilogy.html' title='Paul Auster&apos;s THE NEW YORK TRILOGY'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1208191547939587082</id><published>2010-09-12T01:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-12T01:09:32.882-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Stephen Paul Martin "Changing the Subject"</title><content type='html'>This is an interesting concept for a group of short stories: somewhere in each one of them Martin buries the line "changing the subject." The contexts vary, but in each story they appear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As usual, these Martin stories are hilarious, philosophically rich, absorbing, and just plain fun. As he contineues in his career, it seems to me, Martin is developing the ability to make his philosophically complex stories more and more accessible (and that's a compliment). He has created quite an oeuvre of books like this, and a selected stories by him would be an absolute killer. He is at the forefront of American storytellers.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1208191547939587082?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1208191547939587082/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/stephen-paul-martin-changing-subject.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1208191547939587082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1208191547939587082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/stephen-paul-martin-changing-subject.html' title='Stephen Paul Martin &quot;Changing the Subject&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8930479163337915749</id><published>2010-09-12T01:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-12T01:03:48.208-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pat MacDonald's "Purgatory Hill"</title><content type='html'>If you have&amp;nbsp; any interest in the following buy this album: americana, Captain Beefheart, Hound Dog Taylor, Howling Wolf. He uses this new, primitive sounding instrument in which you slide down on two thick dowels, with two strings a piece on each. See a picture of it &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Purgatory-Hill/dp/B002GO9VEE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=dmusic&amp;amp;qid=1284278553&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. He also plays his lonely harmonica.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;MacDonald is best known for his hilarious mid-80s&amp;nbsp; anti-nuclear hit "The Future's So Bright I Gotta Wear Shades"with the group he led, Timbuk 3.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8930479163337915749?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8930479163337915749/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/pat-macdonalds-purgatory-hill.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8930479163337915749'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8930479163337915749'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/pat-macdonalds-purgatory-hill.html' title='Pat MacDonald&apos;s &quot;Purgatory Hill&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1905657741155886274</id><published>2010-09-12T00:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-12T00:55:14.990-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Going to Have to Take a Break</title><content type='html'>I've taken a job working writing for a couple SEO, so I won't have a lot of energy for the blog until I get habituated to writing stuff like "What is the Best Bike for Teenagers." It wears you out. I always wanted to get paid to write, but I never pictured that it would be like this (moment of bitterness.)&amp;nbsp; I will try to continue the blog with little entries, then go back to longer ones when I get acclimated to my new job.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1905657741155886274?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1905657741155886274/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/going-to-have-to-take-break.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1905657741155886274'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1905657741155886274'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/going-to-have-to-take-break.html' title='Going to Have to Take a Break'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3881234672011612657</id><published>2010-09-08T07:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-08T07:55:54.462-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Louis Armstrong and His Typewriter</title><content type='html'>Fascinating post over at the &lt;a href="http://dangutstein.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Blood and Gutstein&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/a&gt;blog: Daniel Gutstein is doing an analysis of Louis Armstrong's unique punctuation&amp;nbsp; in his letters, found in &lt;i&gt;Louis Armstrong in His Own Words: Selected Writings &lt;/i&gt;(Oxford UP, 2001). To me, at least, Gutstein's analysis clearly shows that Armstrong is a poet with a unique take on the language. Check it out.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3881234672011612657?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3881234672011612657/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/louis-armstrong-and-his-typewriter.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3881234672011612657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3881234672011612657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/09/louis-armstrong-and-his-typewriter.html' title='Louis Armstrong and His Typewriter'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6984205676526049772</id><published>2010-08-29T10:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-09-02T06:17:41.921-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rene Marie'/><title type='text'>Rene Marie at Dakota Sept. 5</title><content type='html'>Jazz singer Rene Marie will be appearing at Dakota Jazz Club in Minneapolis on September 5. Marie is one of the great contemporary stylists of vocal jazz — she takes tremendous chances. I am not sure what her personal thoughts are about Betty Carter, but it strikes me that she is one of the few singers following her lead. She takes the Great American Songbook and stretches it, compresses it, and otherwise makes it go in ways completely unexpectable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Marie is also a clever and important songwriter and performance artist. Her "Slut Energy Theory" received rave &lt;a href="http://www.westword.com/2009-10-08/culture/rene-marie-is-a-powerful-force-in-slut-energy-theory/"&gt;reviews&lt;/a&gt;. And she is known for singing "Lift Every Voice and Sing," the black national anthem, to the tune of the "Star Spangled Banner" at the beginning of a Denver city council meeting. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_R0O9DxEY"&gt;(Link)&lt;/a&gt; It was very controversial, but I found it deeply moving.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She leaves Minneapolis for a four-night stand at the Jazz Standard in New York City Sept. 9-12.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6984205676526049772?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6984205676526049772/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/rene-marie-at-dakota-sept-5.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6984205676526049772'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6984205676526049772'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/rene-marie-at-dakota-sept-5.html' title='Rene Marie at Dakota Sept. 5'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7620343371899664539</id><published>2010-08-26T21:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-11-18T08:42:26.539-08:00</updated><title type='text'>like a beginning</title><content type='html'>walked the distance  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the stand&lt;br /&gt;stared&amp;nbsp;at me&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;unnerved me&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and the smoke&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;eased its way out&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the trees&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;early enough for&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;me to see&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;exactly what &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;was going down —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;wishing its way&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;through a trumpet's&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;regal squack —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;looked me over&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;like hungry&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and I wanted that&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;look in your&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;eye just fine —&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;ended like a beginning&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7620343371899664539?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7620343371899664539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/walked-distance-of-aisle-stared-at-me.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7620343371899664539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7620343371899664539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/walked-distance-of-aisle-stared-at-me.html' title='like a beginning'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5856494035929688473</id><published>2010-08-23T13:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-23T13:43:43.472-07:00</updated><title type='text'>waiting the length of desire</title><content type='html'>waiting the length of desire&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;gone nomad&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;clicking our way&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;just outside &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;just inside what feels&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;an understanding&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;more solid than rivers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;even more determined&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;than mud yet&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;it remains just&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a feeling&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;emanating perhaps&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;from a desire&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;for stasis&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;which may feel right&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;for a time&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;then get boring&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and we would &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;wait the length of desire&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;for anything at all&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to go nomad&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to break the stale&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to tip us off balance&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;or even send us&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;rippling into&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a distance not&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;wanted but as inevitable&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;as the swirling map&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the world&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;showing you anyplace&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;in a simple picture&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;almost instantaneously:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;but no justice for&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the array of grasses&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;in a simple prairie&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5856494035929688473?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5856494035929688473/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/waiting-length-of-desire.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' 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Inconsequential</title><content type='html'>&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;leaving aside the antiquated &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and little known substituting &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the lithe and liquid &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the intrepid and barely correct &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;this could have gone &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;only several several ways &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and went in another direction &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;entirely because no decision &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;allows a shadow &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;past a certain instant: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the clothes came &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;from their drawers today &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and the room became theirs &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;they waltzed and fox-trotted &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;wondered at the corners &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of the walls and ceiling &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;determined the floor &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;was as insubstantial as doors &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;unhinged and inconsequential &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;when the lipid and insufferable &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;cries its way home &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;to give all a new site &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;for the background and fluidity &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;before it: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the tools paraded down &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the block today &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;hammers and pliers &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;screwdrivers and socket wrenches &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;bouncing their way toward &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;an arbitrarily designated &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;end point where all leapt &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;from their joy back &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;into a box almost as unhinged &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;and disorganized as a useless door &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;issuing its poor cry across canyons &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of indecisiveness&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;but then again &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;anything can happen &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;like the day enveloping &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;itself into a neon spray &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;let go at the nadir of night&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2574871141275693740?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2574871141275693740/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/unhinged-and-inconsequential.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2574871141275693740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2574871141275693740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/unhinged-and-inconsequential.html' title='Unhinged and Inconsequential'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2347711260838591332</id><published>2010-08-17T17:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-17T17:57:28.681-07:00</updated><title type='text'>At the Level / Of the Electric</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;we are worms&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;we are bobcats&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;we are grizzlies gone&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a different branch of raw &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;as the haywire&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;or electric can &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;become&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;at the level of&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;the electric&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;maybe it is the same&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;if a robin's wings &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;click their&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;way south or&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;a bear turns to&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;hibernate in a nook&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;or we get too&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;entangled to&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;light out the path&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;we suffered and&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;bumbled into&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;in our mumbling&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;state&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;at that level, too,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;too, as hollow&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;as bells, the pulling &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;of which is&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;as electric&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;as sound in&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;humid air&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen &lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2347711260838591332?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2347711260838591332/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-level-of-electric.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2347711260838591332'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2347711260838591332'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-level-of-electric.html' title='At the Level / Of the Electric'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7624499715486650396</id><published>2010-08-13T17:29:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-13T17:43:43.201-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the quiet of inconsequence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;what's the point when&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;the drivel comes&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;across for the fourth time&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;in a morning&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;and the fifth minor&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;key gives you half&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;the money you thought&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;you had coming and&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;what's the point when&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;a partial eclipse of wonder&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;at any mere movement &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;brings in the frost&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;brings forth the guessings&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;and nothing leaves the&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;constricting premises and&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;what's the point when&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;perplexity and peacable&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;join with nothing&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;left for the supper&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;but the frozen the&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;unsatisfied and unendurable&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;trying against reason to &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;limit the return of favor&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;and the bellicose response&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;in the wicked &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;cry giving up quiet&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;gesture and we are the sport&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;of drum the quiet of&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;inconsequence the &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText"&gt;gesture of inestimable&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --Jefferson Hansen&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7624499715486650396?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7624499715486650396/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/quiet-of-inconsequence.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7624499715486650396'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7624499715486650396'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/quiet-of-inconsequence.html' title='the quiet of inconsequence'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2694271803608610236</id><published>2010-08-07T16:14:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-08-26T09:13:50.185-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Rob Stephenson'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Passes Through'/><title type='text'>Rob Stephenson, PASSES THROUGH</title><content type='html'>&amp;nbsp;Let's make it official: I am jealous. Rob Stephenson in his novel &lt;i&gt;Passes Through&lt;/i&gt; does something I have been wanting to do for years. He is able to work in language that coheres wonderfully through the use not of traditional narrative techniques, but through loose associational logic and rhythm. Only a quotation can give you a flavor:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Steel pellets hit the window near the table I write this on. Someone is tapping on a computer keyboard in the next room. I'm using a pencil worn down to the wood. These sounds should be mixed better. All the time I've spent writing this book I have returned to this one specific incident. It's not in my journal. I sat on the toilet. There were cacti in pots on the window ledge. I looked outside at the flat roof of the garage two houses away. It caved in as I stared. It made a loud unfamiliar crash that split my thoughts into two parts. The part that knew it had happened and the part that couldn't yet believe it had." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This (almost) random selection illustrates much of what makes this an extraordinary book. In the first two sentences he slips between describing "steel pellets" of typing to long hand writing. We don't really learn why computer writing is violent (pellets), but we learn that it and long hand are sounds that don't mix. A sense of unease and perhaps foreboding is creating. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next, we learn that this is an obsessive memory: he never journaled about it, but he can't stop thinking about it. We learn more uneasy details: the toilet, the cacti. Notice also the hard consonants, something that appears in this staccato, polyrhythmic prose throughout the book. Here it is so important as it draws the seeming extraneous tidbits of toilet and cacti into the larger rhythmic pattern. Look at the hard consonants, and you will see it happening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The paragraph ends with the description of the cracking flat roof of the garage. The splitting of the thoughts is of paramount importance: this book is about spelunking that very space between perception and conception, between consideration and action, between repetition and obsession. And it forces us to experience it viscerally.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Viscerally. That's right. Let me rephrase: the book is not about anything. It enacts as a writerly object and as a readerly process the tensions involved in such spelunking. This is a book that perhaps could only really benefit from a kind of phenomenological reading where the entire text of the book is reproduced in one column while in the opposite column is a description of a process of reading it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I mean&lt;i&gt; a&lt;/i&gt; description and &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; process. The book holds together marvelously, but it has a quality about it where people are bound to respond in wildly different ways. In fact, one blurb talked about how the book has something to do with compulsive hate. I don't see it at all, but I don't deny that this rich book could sustain such a reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope I am being clear: this is not a book where every reader can take his or her own meaning. That's a ridiculous cliche that is true of all books and no books at the same time. This book is one where readers who take their time, determined to find and learn what is here, come away convinced that the book coheres, but do so in wildly different ways. And the reason is that I think he has tapped a language source so close to phenomena as we experience and talk about them that we are drawn to its coherence and perhaps seduced into thinking our specific reading is more central to the book than it is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On a more mundane note, the book is divided into three sections. In the first section the associations are most closely linked, and quasi-journal entries are fairly coherent in a conventional sense. Stephenson tells us how he came to write these entries: "Initially, I felt this story was encompassing too many ideas. I keep changing as I go. I had hoped to stay true in some sense to what I started. But then I began to wonder if a writer's instincts should be disregarded. Maybe I should let them go. These little documents of my personal moments."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second section is one, 60-page paragraph and is much more loosely connected. The sentences are all conventionally coherent, but the connections between them are quite complex and sometimes hard to fathom. It reminds me of the early Ron Silliman, when he was developing his aesthetics of the "New Sentence" in works such as &lt;i&gt;Ketjak&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The third section consists of short prose poems, and the level of conventional association seems to be right between where the other sections lay. What is also of interest is that the sentences, throughout the book, retain their staccato polyrhythms, while the wider forms the sentences are placed in changes from journal, to extremely long paragraph, to prose poem.&amp;nbsp; A close analysis of how these sentences perform differently in different contexts would, of course, be useful, but it is beyond the scope of this entry. Perhaps in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rob Stephenson is interviewed by Davis Schneiderman in &lt;a href="http://bigother.com/2010/06/22/the-big-other-interview-rob-stephenson/"&gt;Big Other.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2694271803608610236?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2694271803608610236/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/rob-stephenson-passes-through.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2694271803608610236'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2694271803608610236'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/08/rob-stephenson-passes-through.html' title='Rob Stephenson, PASSES THROUGH'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6942249673738302836</id><published>2010-07-29T17:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-29T17:51:24.652-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Too Tired for Demanding Literature</title><content type='html'>In his introduction to the book I am now reading, Rob Stephenson's excellent &lt;i&gt;Passes Through&lt;/i&gt;, Lance Olsen notes that the book "is the opposite of an easy or fun book, at least by current Oprah-ized standards. It is, rather, a limit text — one that takes writing to the edge of readability, then challenges us to invent new ways to speak about its strangeness."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love literature that does this sort of thing well, as Stephenson's does. I hunt for good examples of such writing to highlight on this blog (I rarely write about books I dislike.) But there is a practical problem most people have with reading such material: It isn't that they can not learn how to read it if given some instruction and time, it's that they are too damn busy and tired to read anything but Oprah-ized books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know. I feel an urge to read those books, or just watch tv, when faced with Stephenson's. I worked on computer web pages for seven hours today. I am exhausted, my eyes are tired, and doing more 'work' with my brain or my eyes is out of the question. How can I read Stephenson's book?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a question we who work in this field need to ask ourselves. While Lance, of course, is not accusing anyone of being lazy in their reading habits, he is implicitly pointing to the energy we expect of our readers. It's not unfair — nobody has to read our books. But is it impractical?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer is a resounding yes. Experimental literature is impractical to its very core; in fact, that may be one of its reason to exist. To display the limits of practicality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it is a privileged position to be able to question practicality. So many of us are so ensnared in it that we have little hope of participating in any more than a tangential way in the literary world. I suppose it is true that everyone involved in the literary world feels some alienation from it. But it is clearly true that some more than others feel this, and it has an impact on how we read and write.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ironic thing is that this alienation may in the end be a blessing more than a curse. As Stephen Kuhn's &lt;i&gt;Structuer of Scientific Thinking &lt;/i&gt;points out, a lot of new discoveries in science come to those new to the field. In other words, people for whom the dominant paradigm is known, but who still have not fully become ensconced in it. Creativity occurs in the gap between the dominant paradigm and the gradual awareness of its full implications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Science is very different from literature, and its ways of knowing are much more rigidly policed and institutionalized. But there are similarities. And the liminal space of being in and out of the practical world, in and out of literary world, and so on, creates the space for some spectacular creativity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the problem is time and energy. The practical world, the very practical world that offers so much to what could be a good engagement with writing, can suck you dry, leaving any creative reading or writing unfinished.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6942249673738302836?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6942249673738302836/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/too-tired-for-demanding-literature.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6942249673738302836'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6942249673738302836'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/too-tired-for-demanding-literature.html' title='Too Tired for Demanding Literature'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8069145707239355969</id><published>2010-07-24T19:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T15:58:58.461-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Iijima'/><title type='text'>Brenda Iijima's poetry book "revv.you'll-ution"</title><content type='html'>This book is intense, has a tremendous momentum, and is at times hilariously funny. The most obvious example of the latter are some photographs taken of stuffed animals and placed in natural settings. She says of her mother who appears in one such photograph, "The only animal perceptible in this photo is Erika Uchman."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This brings to the fore one of the central concerns of this book; the way there is, on one level, no interaction between humans and nature because we are nature and everything we do is, on one level, "natural." It also teases out some of the complexities of how nature and artifice interconnect, interfere, and hurt one another. This is a book concerned with "mending" the earth. At times Iijima does not shy away from even using scientific statistics to help with her themes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poetry is something else. It is taut, tight, and has little extraneous. Some poems are mostly lists of rhythmically and aurally powerful words. Others feature long, sometimes broken up lines that retain the intensity, just in a different way. The poetry is so full of energy it leaps off the page and, for me at least, grabs me wholeheartedly. In addition, to hear her read on &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZYnIh1VKXs"&gt;youtube&lt;/a&gt;, the intensity is immediately evident, but the crowd does not seem to respond to her humor -- such as the unabomber being fed dehydrated mash potatoes in his supermax prison.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a poetry of the local, how we interact in a variety of ways even with dirt. It is also poetry of the earth and the sky. Everywhere, however, Iijima insists on the intersection of human with nature. There is never one without the other, at least not now, when every tree seense either to have been planted or to have been allowed to live because of a choice on the part of people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is difficult poetry that tries to articulate the almost inarticulable — that space between the natural and language where we can see what an aspect of nature is, including our interaction with it, only with the most careful parsing of words, and only for a glimpse. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book, full of generosity of spirit, takes a multi-faceted and multi-various approach to the ways language, human culture, and nature interact in complex ways. Her language manages to offer glimpses of this dynamic that actually get beyond the language a little bit. At times with her writing I felt as if I left the poem partly behind and encountered a phenomenon of real clarity. This I can say of very few other writers.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8069145707239355969?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8069145707239355969/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/brenda-iijimas-poetry-book-revvyoull.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8069145707239355969'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8069145707239355969'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/brenda-iijimas-poetry-book-revvyoull.html' title='Brenda Iijima&apos;s poetry book &quot;revv.you&apos;ll-ution&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-128896885964206959</id><published>2010-07-24T08:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-26T09:12:05.039-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='      '/><title type='text'>improvisations</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;before&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the instant&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the unrealized plan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;response among artifice&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;among nature&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;among the interplay&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;in &amp;amp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;about&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-128896885964206959?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/128896885964206959/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/improvisations.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/128896885964206959'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/128896885964206959'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/improvisations.html' title='improvisations'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2015524724648143309</id><published>2010-07-23T08:31:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-24T08:13:51.549-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Huth, my book, and so on</title><content type='html'>check out Geoff Huth on &lt;a href="http://dbqp.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-do-you-edit-life.html"&gt;telephone poetry&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, I have a new book out, entitled &lt;a href="http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php?fListingClass=0&amp;amp;fSearch=jazz+forms"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Jazz Forms&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Blue Lion Press), which is essentially my selected poems from 1988-2008. The press, run by Peter Ganick and Jukka-Pekka Kervinen, uses Lulu as its printer. My book is available for either $9 hard copy or for free as a download.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Poets have long been mesmerized by jazz. And when they get together in the same room they tend to resemble each other. But Jefferson Hansen has done something different in &lt;i&gt;Jazz Forms.&lt;/i&gt; The impulse might still be mimetic but he translates what is is listening to into a work that is full of ecosystems and associations, full of things like birds and fires and air and bears and babies. The jazz in &lt;i&gt;Jazz Forms &lt;/i&gt;leads to trance, is transformative."&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; — Juliana Spahr&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2015524724648143309?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2015524724648143309/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/huth-my-book-and-so-on.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2015524724648143309'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2015524724648143309'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/huth-my-book-and-so-on.html' title='Huth, my book, and so on'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2176999403320877068</id><published>2010-07-18T16:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-18T18:47:43.136-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shhh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Federman'/><title type='text'>Federman #5</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;This is the 5th post on Raymond Federman's last novel, SHHH.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A reader backchanneled me because she was concerned about whether the closet incident actually happened since Federman's own daughter seemed to question it, and what sort of aid such questioning might give to Holocaust deniers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are good questions. I am not an expert on Federman, I was merely reviewing his book. So if others want to jump in, I would be delighted. That said, from my reading of this book, Federman's fidelity is to a complex notion of 'honesty.' At the end of the afterword Pelton quotes him as saying,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"There is no distinction between memory and imagination, I would not falsify, because I would not lie, because when I walk down the street, my sisters might turn the corner ahead of me and meet me there, and I have to believe that, and how could I tell them when I saw them that I had lied."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By 'lying' I don't believe Federman is referring to getting his facts straight. I believe he is talking about getting his memory straight, all the while knowing that it is riddled with imagination. Did he get put in the closet? Or did he put himself there? Did his mother tell him to "shhh'? We will never know, not because we were not there, but because memory and imagination are profoundly interconnected. To deny this is to be dishonest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for Holocaust deniers, in order to keep them from doing any profound harm, we must keep them out of political power. On one level, it is a political struggle of our imaginations, and our stories, against theirs. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this is not good enough for me. On another level I want to securely say that we Holocaust believers are in the right. And here is where I believe Federman does run into trouble, and he is conscious of it. He writes of himself in the book:&amp;nbsp; "Federman ... your readers are ... going to wonder what's happening to you." My contention is that it is not simply his telling the story of childhood that pushes him to "the edge of the imposture of realism," but the need to tell his story of the Holocaust.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps the sheer weight of witness testimony is what we need. With so many stories, partly imaginary as with all stories, of the Holocaust, denying it becomes quite difficult. That said, it may be wishful thinking. How often are people more swayed by facts and evidence rather than ideology?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I end with the rather depressing conclusion that Holocaust deniers are probably more a political, rather than an evidentiary, problem. Because you can get some people to believe anything. Hence, Federman: be honest to your memory and what it constructs for you, not to what it is supposed to construct. Resist easy stories.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this sense Federman is a hero. He could have written his own great success story: escapes the Holocaust, comes to America, fights in Korea, gets an advanced degree, gets a professorship, becomes an important novelist. It was perfectly available to him. Federman tried to write this novel, then destroyed it, because it was a lie, because it forced his life to a frame, namely, the traditional Western plot-line. He chose to become a lesser-known avant-gardist and remain honest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This individualistic honesty leads to a complex worldview, which tends to resist the simplifications of Fascism and other authoritarian ideologies.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2176999403320877068?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2176999403320877068/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federman-5.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2176999403320877068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2176999403320877068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federman-5.html' title='Federman #5'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8520095262827954550</id><published>2010-07-18T11:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-18T13:13:25.912-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the erotic sounds</title><content type='html'>like the governors of&lt;br /&gt;the down side &lt;br /&gt;unstable&lt;br /&gt;and unable to hold &lt;br /&gt;the erotic sounds&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the tapping around &lt;br /&gt;the touching &lt;br /&gt;demanding and soft &lt;br /&gt;at the same time &lt;br /&gt;and maybe easing &lt;br /&gt;it all up and &lt;br /&gt;down a bit &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;no prescription here&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;but glorious&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;       governors play&lt;br /&gt;       the elected &lt;br /&gt;       number of shells &lt;br /&gt;       but justice makes&lt;br /&gt;       the number go higher &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;translating&lt;br /&gt;the suspected and &lt;br /&gt;the spread&lt;br /&gt;going down:&lt;br /&gt;incidental rains &lt;br /&gt;rising and falling&lt;br /&gt;all wet, all dry&lt;br /&gt;all wet, all &lt;br /&gt;barely dry&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                — Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8520095262827954550?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8520095262827954550/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/backward-sounds.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8520095262827954550'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8520095262827954550'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/backward-sounds.html' title='the erotic sounds'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3145202602560901183</id><published>2010-07-16T13:19:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-16T13:37:26.786-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Crag Hill'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='7x7'/><title type='text'>Interview with poet Crag Hill on his book 7x7</title><content type='html'>Crag Hill's &lt;i&gt;7x7 &lt;/i&gt;is a book of poems with each poem given the title of&amp;nbsp; a card from the traditional playing deck. He makes use of a lot of randomness and quotation, as he will make clear below. Also, the book was written in 2003 and concerns itself with the early years of the George W. Bush presidency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Is this the first time the whole collection has been published? I had no idea when I read this book that it was written in 2003. I thought that it was written recently and it was looking back on the past decade. I find this impressive: Your commentary on a specific political moment has some staying power beyond that time. What strikes you when looking back at them now? Do you see them as a type of political poem?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, this is the first time this series of poems, composed in 2003, has been published in its entirety. I had been holding out, looking for a publisher who could print them on 8 1/2 x 11 playing cards in an 8 1/2 x 11 box (with rounded corners no less). As they appear in this book from Otoliths, they are in the order of composition, the year 2003 unfolding chronologically as it were. I'd like for the reader to be able to shuffle that chronology, seeing what happens, for example, when all the Kings and Jacks are juxtaposed. I'd like to subvert the notion of chronology itself-as if any present can be experienced without the past or future breaking into/through its chronic/logic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poems in 7 x 7 are first and foremost political poems, even if they may not have started out that way. I knew that in 2003 Cheney-Bush would invade Iraq (many of us knew that on 9/11); Colin Powell had already given his bogus presentation to the U.N. to gain international support (which never materialized the way it had for Afghanistan). Simply put, the 7 x 7 project was designed to keep me writing everyday (difficult to do then as a classroom teacher), envisioned as a daybook with Oulipian constraints (each stanza constitutes a day in a week in the year), cutting across what I was reading, seeing/hearing on radio and television, what I was thinking and writing in prose and poetry, the poems as documentation of what was happening within/without the spheres of my attention/s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'm gratified you find that the political moments have staying power; I worried that not getting 7 x 7 out while Cheney-Bush was in office would diminish the impact of the poems, our short public memory disappearing the references (the risk all political poetry takes, events receding into cultural obsolescence). Alas, our continued involvement in two wars keeps the poems pumped up with relevance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am struck by how much of my attention was consumed by the war that should never have been (which, of course, could never compare to the time and energy and turmoil of those who served in Iraq or those who lost loved ones). I wish I could have found something to do about it but fume and fester and write. If this is a daybook, I'm struck by how little of my domestic life entered these poems-my family, my travel, my job teaching high school English, my own study working toward another degree. Yet my reading-news, fiction, poetry, lit crit, my own notebooks-glares through.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. [Please refer to these poems as they were published in the net journal &lt;a href="http://www.hamiltonstone.org/hsr10.html"&gt;"Hamilton Stone"&lt;/a&gt; throughout the rest of the interview.] All the poems in 7x7 take their name from a card from a standard playing deck. How does this randomness fit with the formal discontinuities in other parts of the poems?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I cannot recall if I chose playing cards to title the poems before or after other aspects of the project in place (ultimately each title corresponded to the card I slid from the diminishing deck). One of the 7s in 7 x 7 represents the number of days in a week. Thus the first day of the week has one line, the second day two lines, etc. (I have used the seven days of the week before-see The Week, The Runaway Spoon Press, 1991-to structure a writing project). The other 7 denotes the number of different sources I worked with to write the content of each stanza. I used seven playing cards to select each source for the day. If I pulled an Ace from the short stack, I selected from poetry in my notebook. For a 2, I selected prose from my notebook. With a 3, I chose a quote from a book I was reading. With a 4, I rewrote a passage from a book I was reading, changing the sense while retaining as much of the sound as I could. Drawing a 5, I quoted news from the internet or magazines (primarily Newsweek). With a 6, I quoted from a newspaper (most commonly The Moscow-Pullman Daily News, circulation 8000). Pulling out a 7, I quoted-or slightly misquoted/misheard-television and radio programs. For instance, in "Queen of Hearts," the first line is a taken from a prose passage in my notebook about Ken Kesey's Sometimes a Great Notion. The next two lines are quotations from a political news show. The next three lines are a rewriting of a passage from something I was reading (I didn't keep a record of these texts). The next four lines are a poetry excerpt taken from my notebook, a poem written on a drive across Montana to visit family in Wisconsin. For the next five lines I again drew an Ace and excerpted from a poem based on a dream. The last two stanzas are direct quotations from my reading (direct quotations of text are marked by italics).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, the procedures were deployed to create discontinuities, to disrupt the recursiveness of my writing process. I wanted the language material around me to construct its own meanings with as little "supervision" from me as possible. As a teenager I was struck by Lautreamont's chance encounter of an umbrella and a sewing machine on a dissection table. Though much of surrealism has been rendered cliché, there's still much to be gained from these unintentional juxtapositions. Since, I have endeavored to make possible as many impossible encounters as I can, making volatile neighbors of Fox News and MSNBC, of fiction and poetry, philosophy and trivia.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I'd argue that this isn't random randomness, chance for chance's sake. The world's quick and immense, impossible to encompass or comprehend; chance procedures can bring order to chaos (and chaos to order), although it may not always appear to be so on the surface.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. How does the italics work with and against the standard font?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The italics, as I mentioned above, mark quotations from books I was reading. In a future edition, I'd like to take this marking a step further, making the font uniform for each of the seven sources, e.g. Cambria for quoted poetry from my notebook, Arial for prose, Times New Roman for quotations taken from my reading, etc. That would add texture to the poems and enhance the intertextual readings between the poems, between sections (the collection could be read through selections of my notebook, poetry and prose, excerpts from my reading rather than beginning of poem to end-the series of poems then becomes one poem with many interconnected strands). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;4. Are there chance operations or collage elements in the poems other than the deck of cards?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Answered in #2?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;5. Do you consider George W. Bush a work of randomness itself, and is this an ode to his Presidency and his time in office?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wish George W. was a work of randomness. Alas, George had too many people pulling his strings to be random, the ultimate puppet, a wooden creature with no original thought. There are many painful things about 9/11, one of them being that that event reassured his re-election (as a 16 year old student I had in Republican-swarmed Idaho predicted that very same day). The U.S. would have backed any sitting President at that time; patriotic fervor comes with its own peculiar blinders. Bush was in the right place at the time but was he the right person to respond to such a cataclysm? Time-7 x 7 as an anti-ode-answers in the negative.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3145202602560901183?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3145202602560901183/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-poet-crag-hill-on-his.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3145202602560901183'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3145202602560901183'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/interview-with-poet-crag-hill-on-his.html' title='Interview with poet Crag Hill on his book 7x7'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1242607575505146877</id><published>2010-07-16T07:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-16T07:51:51.782-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shhh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Federman'/><title type='text'>Raymond Federman, SHHH (starcherone books), part 4</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;[This is the final in a four-part series of blogs on Raymond Federman's last novel, &lt;/i&gt;Shhh, The Story of a Childhood.&lt;i&gt;]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I attended SUNY-Buffalo during some of the years Raymond Federman taught there. I never got to know him well, but I did attend a number of readings and observed him in passing. He can only be described as a raconteur — to my mind, someone for whom the story, not the facts or memory, takes priority. Usually, the raconteur engages in storytelling just for fun. And, while Federman obviously had a lot of fun, he also turned the raconteur's position into an aesthetic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At one point in the book he even takes on a belligerent tone about just this issue:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"To remember is to play a mental cinema that falsifies the original event. Souvenirs are fiction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I write, I don't give a damn about what I owe to memory. Otherwise it would mean that I write to repay what I owe to those who forced me to write. What do I owe them?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These sentences are uttered by an interlocutor who interrupts Federman's string of vignettes to question what he is writing and how he is doing it. Much of the time, it feels as if it is a version of Federman's voice coming through, even when he seems to divide himself into two voices who go into dialogue. One voice refers to himself in the second person, the other in the first.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Federman's visceral reaction against 'responsible', 'dutiful' writing is, ironically, a call to honesty. He believes that straightforward, realist stories are "responsible" and indefensibly dishonest: "Those who exterminated my family believe themselves to be responsible for cleansing humanity of a verman." An 'honest' story, it would seem, is self-aware of itself as a story, as a construction. It doesn't pretend to represent in any simple and clear way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I end by returning to my first post, the one where the interlocutor wonders how Federman can be "so serious. Your readers are going to find it boring...What! No more mad laughter, no more sexual effrontery..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a book where Federman risks his raconteur aesthetic in order to tell the heartbreaking story of his early childhood. It is a book where he seems as much interested in history (he even says so at one time) as he is with the story. He seems to risk realism, which he clearly associates with fascism, in order to be true to his vignettes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is a final twist. In his afterword publisher Ted Pelton says that Federman's daughter Simone commented about the closet incident, "if it ever happened." This is astounding: she is questioning the very basis of this entire book. The raconteur could have the last laugh, having created out of thin air the perfect Holocaust, rags to riches story, only to break it up into discontinuous vignettes and the voices of interlocutors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What did or did not happen becomes indifferent. What we have is the writing. However, this should not be taken as a frivolous postmodernism that claims all human communication/thought/reality is writing. Hardly. Federman came to his aesthetic in part through his painful participation in the Holocaust, whatever his faulty memory might offer us of the particulars of that time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is no free play of the signifier when they come for your family. Yes, there might be a lie that keeps the police from searching the closet where Raymond was hiding, but that comes from desperation, not freedom. This book is called "Shhh," not "because of her I can write." Federman emphasizes the closing down of language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope I am not stretching it by saying that this book, in part, shows that the free play of the signifier ends at the point of a bayonet or the barrel of a gun. As Federman worries as early as page 9, perhaps the raconteur cannot tell this story in the face of such devastation, no matter how fast and loose he plays with the facts. Death is absolute. Mass murder is moreso, since it echoes among those yet to be killed. And that echoing is not a sign. It's too deep, too sickening and revolting for such a word. Perhaps the best we can do is use words like "aura," "atmosphere" and so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is Federman's solution in this book? To use ellipses:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ...&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1242607575505146877?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1242607575505146877/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/raymond-federman-shhh-starcherone-books.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1242607575505146877'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1242607575505146877'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/raymond-federman-shhh-starcherone-books.html' title='Raymond Federman, SHHH (starcherone books), part 4'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2776470384660097307</id><published>2010-07-16T06:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-16T06:53:58.060-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Lance and Andi Olsen, HEAD IN FLAMES video</title><content type='html'>See 1/20/10 of this blog for my review of Lance Olsen's collage novel Head in Flames. He and his wife Andi have created two films based on both the book and the film that in part inspired it: &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5gZrRP5hSE"&gt;Head in Flames, Part one&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7chf84_g4jw"&gt;Head in Flames, Part Two&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/TEBkE3kiVeI/AAAAAAAAADo/-p-ex5Dyr-o/s1600/41710_1428484962_4702_q.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/TEBkXP3DuJI/AAAAAAAAADw/fEeBvJXTgYI/s1600/14342_1268203471709_1428484962_30782952_4695844_s.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/TEBkXP3DuJI/AAAAAAAAADw/fEeBvJXTgYI/s320/14342_1268203471709_1428484962_30782952_4695844_s.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2776470384660097307?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2776470384660097307/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/lance-and-andi-olsen-head-in-flames.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2776470384660097307'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2776470384660097307'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/lance-and-andi-olsen-head-in-flames.html' title='Lance and Andi Olsen, HEAD IN FLAMES video'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/TEBkXP3DuJI/AAAAAAAAADw/fEeBvJXTgYI/s72-c/14342_1268203471709_1428484962_30782952_4695844_s.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7077448155685957319</id><published>2010-07-13T17:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-13T19:45:21.073-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shhh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Raymond Federman'/><title type='text'>Federman's SHHH, 3rd post</title><content type='html'>Federman's prose is relaxed and conversation; it goes down easily. He manages to describe heartbreaking vignettes in such a way that we readers are not overcome emotionally. In part, he does this by unflinchingly describing his emotions. For instance, when he as a young boy, before he was interested in girls, was shown how to masturbate by a young woman in his apartment building, there is no sense of violation on his part because, apparently, there was none. He was just happy to be masturbating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Federman describes this way of discussing masturbation, along with other topics, honesty. This may seem like a strange word coming from Federman, from a writer so suspicious of verisimilitude, but I don't think he is contradicting himself. Rather, he is being honest to memory, not so much to historical fact. And the two are different. (However, at other times in the book,&amp;nbsp; he describes things as historical, such as the cockroaches and mice and lice they share their apartment and hair with as the "historical" facts of life in 1930's proletarian Paris.) What carries us through this fascinating book is this fidelity to memory. The book moves associatively, from one memory to another, jumping around in time, describing events even Federman cannot remember how old he was when they happened. (The fourth part of this series will deal, in part, with the problematic of memory in this book.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He describes his childhood as chaotic. His father was a tuberculor chronic gambler, his mother a long-suffering house cleaner for rich people, and his Uncle Leon a tailor always trying to get him to come into his shop to do menial chores such as picking up pins from the floor. And then his cousin Salomon, whose hand-me-downs he received, and who treated him with real disrespect. Federman does not describe his sisters, Sarah and Jaqueline, very much at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Leon and his family escaped, Federman's didn't, and whatever their foibles, especially the father's, none of course deserved what they had coming to them from the Nazis. There is almost an innocence in the way that he relates these vignettes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have come to wonder how how he has created this relaxed, associative prose at the sentence level. On page 176 he is describing the little birds who came to the apartment window. He thinks they were sparrows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I wanted so much to be able to fly like them. Maybe that's why years later in America, I volunteered for the paratroopers during the Korean war. Just to be in the sky. But that's another story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I would have liked to have been a bird. Except that in the winter, when it was very cold outside and it snowed, I could imagine how the poor birds were suffering."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This may seem sentimental to some, but to me it's not. The desire to fly comes at a time in the book when Jewish kids were basically forced to remain in their homes by the German occupiers. So there is a double association between the birds and the paratroopers: one is the explicit statement about flying, the second is a military association. When he is actually flying, he is doing the fighting, not being passively holed up in an apartment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Federman chooses to cut off this association. The question then becomes why he chooses to bring it up in the first place. Why not cut it out? Apparently, Federman wants to highlight the pruning process that he is applying to his memories. He begins a new story, perhaps even teasing us with it a little, only to shrug and say, "But that's another story." It's a little silly, kind of conversational, and all Federman.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the association carefully packed away, Federman returns to thinking about how he would have liked to fly. But he cannot leave it so simple: he also remembers how when he was a boy he imagined the birds suffering. This is a perfectly formed sentence: he delays the man clasue as long as possible, thereby getting all the necessary information in before introducing it. The delay also creates the necessary drama. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This example is one of the smooth, conversational, associative moves that makes this book go down so smoothly. Somehow, Federman makes this representation of a difficult life, that ended in tragedy for most involved, sing in a terrifically accessible manner.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7077448155685957319?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7077448155685957319/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federmans-shhh-3rd-post.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7077448155685957319'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7077448155685957319'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federmans-shhh-3rd-post.html' title='Federman&apos;s SHHH, 3rd post'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3439315656097593588</id><published>2010-07-11T15:17:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-11T15:21:52.197-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>its own good offering</title><content type='html'>katydids' strident&lt;br /&gt;song beneath the&lt;br /&gt;highway traffic —&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;there is no hurry&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;left  to home —&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;for its own good&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;offering only&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;the last way out&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3439315656097593588?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3439315656097593588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/its-own-good-offering.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3439315656097593588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3439315656097593588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/its-own-good-offering.html' title='its own good offering'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3482158445783250130</id><published>2010-07-11T15:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-11T15:21:07.644-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>halls &amp; cylinders</title><content type='html'>Creatures lumbering &amp;amp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;posturing their&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;way down halls&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &amp;amp; cylinders,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;an interloper&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;offers other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;approaches&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;questionable &amp;amp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;expansive, the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;capacity&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;of alert seedlings,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;perhaps &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;the last way&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;out of the last&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;way home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;like words knocking&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;at the wrong&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;door.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; — Jefferson Hansen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3482158445783250130?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3482158445783250130/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/halls-cylindars.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3482158445783250130'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3482158445783250130'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/halls-cylindars.html' title='halls &amp; cylinders'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4893218658430943662</id><published>2010-07-09T18:05:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-09T18:06:20.289-07:00</updated><title type='text'>AACM Saxophonist Fred Anderson Dead at 81 years of age</title><content type='html'>One of the leaders of Chicago's 45-year-old avant-garde jazz artist collective, the Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians, Fred Anderson, died last month. &lt;a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-26698-Chicago-Jazz-Music-Examiner%7Ey2010m6d25-Chicago-loses-an-icon-tenor-saxist-Fred-Anderson-silenced-at-81"&gt;This article &lt;/a&gt;gives a good rundown of his life. Here are a few of his albums that I own and like. I am sure there are others, such as the highly touted "The Missing Link," which are equally interesting:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the Run: Live at the Velvet Lounge (delmark)&lt;br /&gt;Back Together Again: Hamid Drake and Fred Anderson (thrill jockey)&lt;br /&gt;The Milwaukee Tapes (atavistic)&lt;br /&gt;Timeless: Live at the Velvet Lounge (delmark)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4893218658430943662?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4893218658430943662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/aacm-saxophonist-fred-anderson-dead.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4893218658430943662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4893218658430943662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/aacm-saxophonist-fred-anderson-dead.html' title='AACM Saxophonist Fred Anderson Dead at 81 years of age'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2804436185019579830</id><published>2010-07-08T13:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-09T14:34:10.450-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shhh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Federman'/><title type='text'>Federman's "Shhh", part 2 — the poem "Before That"</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;[This is the second of a number of entries that trace my thoughts as I read Raymond Federman's last novel, Shhh, which is about his early life with his family before, at age 13, his mother pushed him into a closet, telling him "shhh," when the Nazis were coming and saved him from the fate of the rest of the family, Aushwitz.]&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Throughout his fine prose — and the word is "fine," — Federman intersperses poems. The poems often surprise me at how old-fashioned they seem in their thematics. This is not a put down, it is just an observation. Perhaps the poem that affects me the most is also the most old-fashioned, "Before That." On the surface, it is a simple longing for a long, rooted family occupation, as farmers, builders, or sailors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first stanza reads:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some say, can say: my father was a farmer,&lt;br /&gt;and his father before him, and his father&lt;br /&gt;before that. We are of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poem goes on to say that a family of builders is "of the stone" and a family of sailors is "of the water." Then he says that "I have no antecedent" because nobody in his family has been a writer. He claims to write to establish an "antecedent for my children."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The last two stanzas are devastating. Federman wonders if he can say anything of his father given his "erasure from history." In the next stanza, the answer is "yes." He can say his father is "a wanderer" from "nowhere" to nowhere. "He came without earth, stone, water, and he went wordless."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What I find so devastating here is the intense longing for family that comes through. The desire for stone, earth, and water, for the elemental, to touch and become one with the elemental, is almost overwhelming. It is what he sees others have that he cannot because his family was taken from him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the prose of the book, where he comments on the poem, Federman suggests that it is about his family's historical tendency toward failure and poverty. And I believe him, but only on one level. The "that" in the title could refer to familial antecedents or to his family being taken away Aushwitz. In the latter case, the earth stone water are the fundamentals of life being stripped from him.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2804436185019579830?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2804436185019579830/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federmans-shhh-part-2-poem-before-that.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2804436185019579830'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2804436185019579830'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/federmans-shhh-part-2-poem-before-that.html' title='Federman&apos;s &quot;Shhh&quot;, part 2 — the poem &quot;Before That&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2522551867522376610</id><published>2010-07-08T12:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-08T13:12:52.757-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mankwe ndosi'/><title type='text'>Singers from "As the Rhythm Changes"</title><content type='html'>I wrote a blog response to Mankwe Ndosi's "As the Rhythm Changes," a fascinating performance piece sung, danced and acted by her and four other women and staged in St. Paul. It was dated May 16, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mankwe has announced that she and some of the others in the performance will appear on Twin Cities television over the next couple days.&amp;nbsp; You can also see them over the internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="clear: both;"&gt;"Prior to working on As the Rhyhtm Changes - I  got together with&amp;nbsp;my friends and outstanding&amp;nbsp;singer/artists, Aimee K.  Bryant and Libby Turner-Opanga, to record for Twin Cities Public  Television’s new weekly arts series, &lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C7AA0t00;"&gt;MN  Original&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear: both;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="left" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;Our  segment is scheduled to air on&amp;nbsp;TONITE's&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C7AA0t00;"&gt;MN Original &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;Thursday,  July 8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;th &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;at &lt;b&gt;7:30pm&lt;/b&gt;, on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE31EC2A0t00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;tpt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C7AA0t00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2&lt;/b&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;It will repeat &lt;b&gt;Saturday, July 10&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;th  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;at 6:30pm on  the statewide MN Channel&lt;/b&gt;, and &lt;b&gt;Sunday, July 11&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00; font-size: xx-small;"&gt;th &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;at 6pm on &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE31EC2A0t00;"&gt;tptLIFE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt; (all times listed are Central Time.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="left" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="left" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;If  you're outside the Twin Cities, or miss it the &lt;u&gt;full episode&lt;/u&gt; will  also be posted on&amp;nbsp;TPT's companion website &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37CAC28t00;"&gt;www&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37CAC28t00;"&gt;mnoriginal.org&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;. Visitors to the site will find additional  content,web exclusive videos, more background and links to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C7AA0t00;"&gt;MN Original &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: TTE37C3230t00;"&gt;artists."  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2522551867522376610?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2522551867522376610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/singers-from-as-rhythm-changes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2522551867522376610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2522551867522376610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/singers-from-as-rhythm-changes.html' title='Singers from &quot;As the Rhythm Changes&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-982011575007016976</id><published>2010-07-04T21:46:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-04T21:55:55.242-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>Poe Poe</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; we've been&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; here before and&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; no science&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; can explain&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the treachery and&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; trajectories we&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; will travel -&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; what is it&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; when the bottom&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; falls out&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; and we find&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; no footholds&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; no landings&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;awakened by a&lt;br /&gt;perpendicular&lt;br /&gt;appeal&lt;br /&gt;and we give no&lt;br /&gt;ground&lt;br /&gt;except the toe&lt;br /&gt;that digs back&lt;br /&gt;to hold&lt;br /&gt;us steady&lt;br /&gt;against&lt;br /&gt;what we fear&lt;br /&gt;will materialize:&lt;br /&gt;an onslaught&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;that has &lt;br /&gt;never happened -&lt;br /&gt;wrapped together&lt;br /&gt;like fence&lt;br /&gt;and vine,&lt;br /&gt;studying faces&lt;br /&gt;for the wobbling&lt;br /&gt;'facts': &lt;br /&gt;just guesses&lt;br /&gt;plus their&lt;br /&gt;probabilities&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;if there weren't&lt;br /&gt;an evil demon&lt;br /&gt;behind human&lt;br /&gt;perception we &lt;br /&gt;wouldn't have to&lt;br /&gt;invent one -&lt;br /&gt;tangling &lt;br /&gt;together our&lt;br /&gt;hunches in&lt;br /&gt;elaborate &lt;br /&gt;evident&lt;br /&gt;contradictions&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a knocking&lt;br /&gt;came to our door&lt;br /&gt;today&lt;br /&gt;announcing&lt;br /&gt;itself as 'Poe, Poe'&lt;br /&gt;and we gave &lt;br /&gt;ourselves over&lt;br /&gt;to the crack&lt;br /&gt;crack&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;and we've been&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; here before&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt; and nothing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; looked right&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; again&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-982011575007016976?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/982011575007016976/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/poe-poe.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/982011575007016976'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/982011575007016976'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/poe-poe.html' title='Poe Poe'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6323357724481148839</id><published>2010-07-02T14:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-03T10:26:40.219-07:00</updated><title type='text'>SHHH (starcherone books) by Raymond Federman, Pt. 1</title><content type='html'>&lt;i&gt;This was Raymond Federman's last book. While there is a temptation to write a review that is also a sort of elegy, especially given that the book is to a great degree autobiographical, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;I will leave the elegies to those who knew Raymond Federman better  than I.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; Here and in a couple subsequent entries I will focus on the writing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am about a third of the way through the book so far, and here is what I am noticing. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The book begins with autobiography, by telling how Federman escaped the Nazi purges in France. He did so because his mother pushed him into the closet when the French collaborators came for the family and said, "Chut," French for "Shh." His family then when on to die in the camps.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Federman&amp;nbsp; pours his heart out in existential anguish: why did my mother  pick me and not my older sister? Then, at least for nonreaders of Federman, he makes a startling turn. He says, to himself, not so  serious, Federman . This all happens within the space of eight pages &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; serious, indeed. Here is a man confessing the most harrowing moment of his life, one that few of us will ever come close to experiencing, only to question the way he tells it. Is he saying that even at our most emotionally vulnerable we wear a mask, even at&amp;nbsp; 13&amp;nbsp; years old, completely alone, completely silence?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But isn't the French collaborators' violence a bottom-line reality? People behave in certain ways because of the threat of violence. Or, does the Nazi story, with its masks, masques, and dramas make the violence occur? In other words, was Nazi power rooted in violence or in propaganda?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer is probably both, depending on the situation. But each was necessary. This means that violence alone could not do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could it fairly be said that the collaborators' came to the Federman house in part because of propaganda, because of stories, because of a presentation of 'reality'? If so, wouldn't any presentation of 'reality' be suspect, even that of a little boy, who stayed in a closet as the police marched his family away?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Federman breaks into the story and questions how he is telling it, he creates a dialogue with himself. One side of his persona asks why he has allowed himself to slide so far from his usual literary fare. The second voice often answers that risking realism is the price of writing the story of childhood, "one is always on the edge of the precipice of sentimentality that makes you crumble into whining realism" (9).&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Federman decides to "go on anyway" (9). I take it that Federman feels impelled to tell this story just as he is suspicious of stories that claim too much authority for themselves. How will this work itself out?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6323357724481148839?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6323357724481148839/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/shhh-starcherone-books-by-raymond.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6323357724481148839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6323357724481148839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/shhh-starcherone-books-by-raymond.html' title='SHHH (starcherone books) by Raymond Federman, Pt. 1'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6266976002374676049</id><published>2010-07-01T13:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T13:13:41.445-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>birds are these things</title><content type='html'>a bird arrived in time&lt;br /&gt;for your unscheduled&lt;br /&gt;investiture&lt;br /&gt;your rude&lt;br /&gt;graciousness&lt;br /&gt;your silly formality&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and it was just right&lt;br /&gt;because birds are&lt;br /&gt;these things —&lt;br /&gt;at least little birds&lt;br /&gt;like sparrows&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;raptors are something&lt;br /&gt;else they are like&lt;br /&gt;your sadness&lt;br /&gt;sailing alone in &lt;br /&gt;a vast sky&lt;br /&gt;searching for&lt;br /&gt;rodents&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;my sadness &lt;br /&gt;is this also&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for now though&lt;br /&gt;we are on the ground&lt;br /&gt;where some sparrows&lt;br /&gt;apparently found&lt;br /&gt;something to eat&lt;br /&gt;— jolly &amp; jostling&lt;br /&gt;stretching their&lt;br /&gt;way on, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;          —— Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6266976002374676049?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' 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src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-232745017763306371</id><published>2010-07-01T12:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T12:57:14.170-07:00</updated><title type='text'>the pivot of yesterday</title><content type='html'>there is no point&lt;br /&gt;no portion&lt;br /&gt;or partiality&lt;br /&gt;to hold this flat&lt;br /&gt;together —&lt;br /&gt;we weather numb&lt;br /&gt;as asthma&lt;br /&gt;and the creatures parade&lt;br /&gt;in the night&lt;br /&gt;for reasons even&lt;br /&gt;they apparently&lt;br /&gt;forgot&lt;br /&gt;or am I speculating&lt;br /&gt;again and&lt;br /&gt;again&lt;br /&gt;the pollens come at&lt;br /&gt;us again today&lt;br /&gt;with a sullen&lt;br /&gt;violence like&lt;br /&gt;the moon slivered&lt;br /&gt;and red behind clouds&lt;br /&gt;that I like to think&lt;br /&gt;are stupid but are&lt;br /&gt;probably just themselves&lt;br /&gt;as we are as&lt;br /&gt;we are I guess&lt;br /&gt;supposed to be&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                — Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-232745017763306371?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/232745017763306371/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/pivot-of-yesterday-there-is-no-point-no.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/232745017763306371'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/232745017763306371'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/pivot-of-yesterday-there-is-no-point-no.html' title='the pivot of yesterday'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1052422943124230338</id><published>2010-07-01T12:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T12:48:53.928-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>no future other</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;no future other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;than the one&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;you forget yourself into&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;maybe with me&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;maybe with her&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;each step an excuse&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;a rationalization&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;explanation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;a thank you like&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;the rest of them&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;— Jefferson Hansen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1052422943124230338?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1052422943124230338/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-future-other.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1052422943124230338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1052422943124230338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/07/no-future-other.html' title='no future other'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-9012790799433279709</id><published>2010-06-26T08:24:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-26T21:05:35.157-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Interview with Kyle Muntz, author of the novel VOICES (Enigmatic Ink)</title><content type='html'>&lt;b&gt;1. Since you are a new writer, how about beginning with your biography. Was your family artistic or literary? What has your education (formal and informal) been like?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I think back, I’m not sure how I came to be a writer—or at least, one who works with experimental fiction. I don’t come from an artistically inclined family (my grandfather was a painter, but that’s about it), but I’ve read for as long as I can remember, though I don’t know exactly when I began to write. I was exposed to Joyce at a very young age (and soon after, some of my other initial influences, such as Pynchon, Barthelme, Barth, etc), which really affected the direction my writing took later. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m in my second year of college right now, so I still have relatively little formal literary education. Voices was written when I was a junior in high school, and was largely influenced by the writings of Roland Barthes, Lacan, and Sartre, despite my avoidance of existential and poststructuralist vocabulary in the novel itself. I can’t be sure of my stylistic influences at the time, but looking back, I detect strains of Haruki Murakami, Samuel Delany, Borges, and Pynchon as well, who continue to be some of my favorite authors today.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. If you were asked to describe Voices in a few paragraphs, what would you say?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Voices is a strange (and hopefully, unique) exploration of narrative structure/form that touches on, among other things, the relationship between the Novel and the Idea, manifest in various forms of experience. When describing it, I prefer to avoid descriptions of the plot, so I generally address the concepts themselves: the stipulations, limitations and context of selfhood; the position of the individual in reference to society, in particular, the artist, and the extent to which we are semantic extensions—fabrications—of that context; and also, oddly enough, a very modern take on the Platonic Idea in reference to gender perception and the semiotic “mythologies” (as Barthes would put it) that comprise subjective experience and form our—only—notion of the world around us. In Voices, to the greatest extent possible, the external is a reflection of the internal, rather than the other way around—but if the components of individuality are solely “a distorted mirror of the external,” what is left of selfhood? Much of the novel is an indirect exploration of this concept, and an (equally indirect) attempt to answer some of the questions that ensue. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, it isn’t an excessively dialectic novel, but simply an attempt to harness language, form, and concept to create something as beautiful as possible. There’s a very serious difference between discourse and the object of discourse (or, in this case, the predication of discourse in motion), and Voices is made up primarily of the latter. The main emphasis is on the contours of language and feeling; its philosophical (and even structural) underpinnings serve largely to facilitate the formation of the text, rather than dictating the manner in which it is read. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. How does the title of the book relate to the book itself?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The notion of voices—or simply “voice”—is built into various levels of the novel as a symbol, narrative device, and also stylistic preoccupation. Voice assumes its immediate symbolic context as the expression of individual identity, stipulating presence and expression, but also comes to represent society itself (a conglomerate of many voices), and even the echoes of the past—that, heard together, form a monotony entirely without speech. At one point early on, the narrative becomes a conduit for various disembodied voices, describing one of the central characters (who, herself, represents something akin to Platonic beauty, in a psychological, as opposed to traditionally metaphysical context) from various conflicting perspectives. The text itself is composed entirely of voice; arguably (at the time, I agreed with Lacan, though now I’m not so sure), even thought is composed entirely of semantic units (language), of which spoken voice and written speech are a derivative, and that gets touched on in the novel as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4. [If you go to page 4, which is excerpted on the Amazon page for the book, you will see the use of poetic space and line breaks about halfway down on the left. Muntz throughout the book uses such poetic devices to present his characters' thoughts. Most of the time, the poetic interventions are much more extreme.] What do the poetic forms allow you to do that straight prose does not?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Voices, my primary stylistic aim was that the narrative itself be “broken,” but not disharmonious. The disparate placing of words across the page draws attention to the individual delineations of each sentence, the contour of each phrase. Yet the writing itself still feels distinctly like prose, with a focus on narrative exposition. Despite the line-breaks permeating the text, the paragraph is still its foundation, even when each is broken into many pieces, or concrete shapes, and stretched over multiple pages. The overall effect is something I’ve started to call “narrative cubism,” implemented on the level of the individual sentence as well as the overarching narrative. Initially, it served as a means of differentiating Voices even from other experimental pieces (though similar things have been done by Federman, Gass, and doubtlessly many other authors I’m not aware of), but rarely so fixated upon modulating the singular unit of the paragraph.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. I hesitate to call your narrator "first person." How would you describe him?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The narrator does, indeed, speak in first person, but the presence behind the voice—the terminal subject—is strangely absent, to the point it seems the narrator has become only voice. The notion of the simulacrum (a copy that has become detached from its original, so much it might have no original at all) is especially evident here. Because of his inability to escape what Sartre calls “Bad Faith,” the submission of self to societal identity, prior even to the beginning of the story, the narrator’s persona has actually been divided into two separate entities. Even then, of course, the separation can’t possibly be complete: as long as one exists within the context of an external environment, they are subject to that environment, but this attitude is evidenced in his almost completely unrestrained behavior and disregard of social norms. One of the most enigmatic things about Voices is the narrator himself, but this is largely because he doesn’t understand either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;6. In many places, particularly early in the novel, you have your narrator write "I am hearing voices." How is this comment related to the structural concerns of your novel? Without giving the book away, how would you describe the wider structural concerns of the book?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Voices, symbols have a tendency to become physical objects. When the narrator says “I am hearing voices,” he is referring, literarily, to the symbolic hierarchy I mentioned in question 3: the individual, their society, and the past, attempting to be “heard” in the present, but, altogether, muffling themselves. At one point (in one of the character’s basement, where no one would hear them), the voices literally take shape, to form a frail “shadow creature” that, after standing for a moment, collapses to the ground and dissipates. More than anything, this illustrates the position of the individual voice in our commercialized society—particularly that of the artist. Eventually, this becomes so prominent that when the narrator himself speaks, no one can hear him, simply because he is an artist. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The entire structure of Voices is a simulacrum, whose very reality (not to mention its individual components, down to the “self” so essential to the narrator) has become uncertain. The setting is both mental and physical—not to be confused with traditional philosophical idealism, because the mental contours here are primarily psychological and sociological—and therefore neither. The narrative has been taken apart and put back together. The different sections are usually out of order, but on occasion, one event will transition continuously from one to the next. At such a late stage of digression, the most one can do is outline its parameters, rather than isolate any singular cause—especially when, now, that cause has been obscured, and has taken so many disparate forms.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;7. Your prose is often quite lush and rich. Could you discuss why you chose this writing style?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve always had a notion of the literary text as an aesthetic object, and I try to incorporate that to the greatest extent possible in my writing. My work never pretends to duplicate film or other physical-oriented media, but focuses principally on the strengths of language itself: the expression of gradations of perception and feeling, emphasizing conceptual depth and exploration. Descriptions are primarily subjective, rather than objective; in fact, often the exposition is concerned solely with mental reality, utilizing associative logic, though rarely verging onto true stream-of-consciousness. The text is sometimes difficult, but rarely opaque—I’m not interested in using technique to abolish narrative, but, to the greatest extent possible, enhance it. When writing, I try to work at the level of the individual sentence: if one sentence doesn’t work, then neither does the paragraph. If the language is faulty, then the text (that is, we must remind ourselves, composed entirely of language) doesn’t work either. The aim, though, is simple: beauty. That beauty is sometimes complex, sometimes obscure, even cerebral, but always anchored in fundamental experience, even if the only experience is the experience of beauty.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-9012790799433279709?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/9012790799433279709/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/1.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/9012790799433279709'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/9012790799433279709'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/1.html' title='Interview with Kyle Muntz, author of the novel VOICES (Enigmatic Ink)'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7622675641549562593</id><published>2010-06-26T08:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T12:49:55.536-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>species not yet invented</title><content type='html'>you arrive with a&lt;br /&gt;pointedness&lt;br /&gt;because&lt;br /&gt;your position is&lt;br /&gt;shivering,&lt;br /&gt;has lost its steady —&lt;br /&gt;I try to meet you&lt;br /&gt;with my instant &lt;br /&gt;but it loses &lt;br /&gt;its contour, &lt;br /&gt;slips out of &lt;br /&gt;its suppleness,&lt;br /&gt;goes somewhere slightly&lt;br /&gt;out of my &lt;br /&gt;poor reach — this&lt;br /&gt;is the era of &lt;br /&gt;foreign habitats &lt;br /&gt;beamed into our &lt;br /&gt;neuronal&lt;br /&gt;make-up, being&lt;br /&gt;tripped up &lt;br /&gt;by the thrill&lt;br /&gt;of being tripped&lt;br /&gt;up — wondering&lt;br /&gt;what was the effect of the&lt;br /&gt;invention of the &lt;br /&gt;wheel on the&lt;br /&gt;brain — &lt;br /&gt;bungled&lt;br /&gt;refraction and&lt;br /&gt;wave interference, &lt;br /&gt;I blink myself&lt;br /&gt;over the brink&lt;br /&gt;of sleep, muttering&lt;br /&gt;to you about&lt;br /&gt;species not&lt;br /&gt;yet invented&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;— Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7622675641549562593?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7622675641549562593/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/species-not-yet-invented.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7622675641549562593'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7622675641549562593'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/species-not-yet-invented.html' title='species not yet invented'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4627487223437008362</id><published>2010-06-16T18:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-07-01T12:53:31.196-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jefferson Hansen Poems'/><title type='text'>no nuance can account</title><content type='html'>I like your little lies,&lt;br /&gt;ones about foreign&lt;br /&gt;efforts, collecting&lt;br /&gt;flies, stilling face.&lt;br /&gt;Your big lies too.&lt;br /&gt;They amount to&lt;br /&gt;less than insidiousness&lt;br /&gt;and more than&lt;br /&gt;futility.&lt;br /&gt;My guess is that&lt;br /&gt;you guess your&lt;br /&gt;way beyond any&lt;br /&gt;inanity, at least&lt;br /&gt;in your way&lt;br /&gt;in your mind.&lt;br /&gt;I am as much with&lt;br /&gt;you as the dirt is,&lt;br /&gt;which isn't saying&lt;br /&gt;much — the dirt's &lt;br /&gt;bounty is as capricious&lt;br /&gt;as its years gone dry,&lt;br /&gt;dead. But that doesn't&lt;br /&gt;mean I am not with&lt;br /&gt;you. Just be serious here.&lt;br /&gt;You and dirt have&lt;br /&gt;something in common&lt;br /&gt;too. It gathers in the&lt;br /&gt;creases of your face,&lt;br /&gt;a tenacity, a responsiveness.&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps you see it&lt;br /&gt;with me, perhaps&lt;br /&gt;something more&lt;br /&gt;desperate, less&lt;br /&gt;determined. I just don't&lt;br /&gt;know. No nuance&lt;br /&gt;can account for the &lt;br /&gt;squirm and tick&lt;br /&gt;beneath our&lt;br /&gt;breathings —&lt;br /&gt;more of the dirt&lt;br /&gt;and flies, perhaps,&lt;br /&gt;than we, we who rely&lt;br /&gt;on them more than anything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;— Jefferson Hansen&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-4627487223437008362?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/4627487223437008362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/no-nuance-can-account.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4627487223437008362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/4627487223437008362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/no-nuance-can-account.html' title='no nuance can account'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5095792748649642026</id><published>2010-06-01T12:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-06-08T11:23:58.660-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lily Hoag'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Evolutionary Revolution'/><title type='text'>Lily Hoang's THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION part 3</title><content type='html'>[See Parts 1 &amp;amp; 2 for my considerations of Lily's prose style.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The plot of this book is fascinating: it spirals. There is a clear linear progression toward the Golden Tree and to and away from The Evolutionary Revolution. However, we keep going back and forward in subplots that run throughout the book. In short, we move forward at the same time that we spiral from side to side in subplots in this fabulist world populated by many subspecies of humans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before getting further into the implications of this book, we need to take a step back and consider the reading experience itself. The chapters are 1/2 to 2 pages long, and are often discontinuous. They leap about among four or five subplots. (This is the spiraling I spoke of earlier.) Lily is quite merciful with her reader in that she always gives good  hints to resituate us into a plot when we suddenly return to it at the beginning of a new chapter. Now, the plots do (seem to?) come together in the end. One plot concerns an Emily who grows wings on her thighs, another the Sylvester twins, who are connected to each other and treated as freaks at circuses. And so on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A larger mythic substructure asserts that the earth was once all fresh water, no land. The species we now call "man" lived in the sky and slept on the fertile moon. "Man" was all female. Down in the waters was a nasty, vengeful form of humanity, mermen. It would seem that they are all connected twins. For reasons not entirely clear, "man" becomes sexualized, then leaves the moon and attacks the mermen unmercifully, until they are all dead. What remains of them today is in the salt in the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How do we know such things? Through the poets, storytellers, and prophets, of course. But they are problematic. It was the poets' job to retain "the stories of the past in the various cavities of their bodies" (28). Politicians and wealthy families kept poets to help them with their affairs. There was only one problem. The poets were a jolly sort, lovers of mischief and "misconstrued facts." This means that one of the fundamental sources of knowledge about the past is unreliable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Storytellers couldn't be trusted anymore than poets. And neither could prophets. So what we have is a fabulist society built on these myths that might be "full of shit" as Lily puts it. So what is this book? An elegantly written pile of shit?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not entirely. It's also about connectivity. It's about the joy of stories, of language, "the symphony of disagreements" (229). Of wondering about the past and future of the planet, of us, of everything. Sometimes it's not the truth that matters so much, it's the webbings of stories upon stories, giving meaning, distraction, perspective.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, it seems to me that Lily shows a humanity to be capable of incredible destruction and incredible creativity, a creativity not based on simple truth and fact-finding. But on the tussle of individuals, cultures, and societies in the disagreements and agreements.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As Lily points out, the scope of the environmental difficulties in front of us might not get addressed in time. But, then again, stories can take us most anywhere.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5095792748649642026?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5095792748649642026/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/lily-hoangs-evolutionary-revolution.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5095792748649642026'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5095792748649642026'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/06/lily-hoangs-evolutionary-revolution.html' title='Lily Hoang&apos;s THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION part 3'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-410569677080594209</id><published>2010-05-30T13:07:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-30T14:05:33.739-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lily Hoang'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Evolutionary Revolution'/><title type='text'>Lily Hoang's THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION part 2</title><content type='html'>As a writer, I will forever have an affection for the close reading of prose and poetry. For me, nothing helps me on the micro-elements of my craft than paying close attention to what others, whom I respect, are doing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just in case any readers are unfamiliar with the "intentional fallacy," I'll explain it in the next two paragraphs. Oftentimes, close readers pick up stuff that is clearly there but was not intentionally placed by the author. This often happens to me not only with the small stuff, but large scale themes as well. Friends of mine, some of whom do not often read literature, will frequently see something that is evident in the work on the thematic level that I never picked up on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this is to say that a close read for me is not an effort to read a writer's mind, it's an attempt to see how he or she works the language as a craftsperson. The degree of intentionality is not important in a close reading ( though it certainly is in more autobiographical &amp;amp;  historical readings of literature).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to look at four sentences on page 132.&lt;br /&gt;    &lt;br /&gt;           "It is not because we want to regress that we explore the past. That would be a complete mischaracterization of our intentions. Nor are we the type to look back upon yesterday with a milky, romanticized eye, an eye that does not scrutinize, an uncritical eye.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;           "Rather, we look to the past because we must find the errors of our ancestors."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, I want to emphasize that what is being said here about why we may study history is not necessarily Lily's beliefs. Point of view in this book is complicated, to say the least.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What interests me is that we have four sentences, only two of which have commas. One of those, however, is just after a brief introductory word, so it hardly counts. For all practical purposes we have three fairly simple, very short sentences without commas. Then, in the middle of these three, comes a very long one with three commas central to the expressive power of the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These commas contain the phrases that help explain the metaphorical "eye" with which this "we" looks at the past. There's an insistence on completely denying the romanticized mind by not having the sentence end at the first "eye," but having us readers hover over its negation for an extra half sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On top of that is repetition and rhyme. "Eye" is repeated three times, the rhyming syllable "ize" twice in this one sentence. There is a tremendous determination to keep the word and the sound "eye" before us for the entire lingering, last half of the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She does this with no awkwardness, and nothing feels forced. I read to the bottom of the page and felt that something remarkable had happened, so I went back to look for it. I think she is able to keep the emphasis so strongly on "eye" without sounding clunky largely through her rhythms (I will not do a traditional scan, but I looked at it from that view point and there does seem to be some interesting emphases that come up) and her long consonants. When we get to the last half of the sentence hard consonants are usually buried within words, where they lose some of their fricative power, and she begins words with soft consonants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In short, she draws us through the heavy repetition in the last half of the sentence by using rhythm and sound. The heavy repetition helps to thoroughly negate the "romanticized" way of looking at the past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My next entry on this book will be a review of the book itself.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-410569677080594209?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/410569677080594209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/lily-hoangs-evolutionary-revolution.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/410569677080594209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/410569677080594209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/lily-hoangs-evolutionary-revolution.html' title='Lily Hoang&apos;s THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION part 2'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1099495655003208139</id><published>2010-05-25T17:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-25T18:07:51.868-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lily Hoang'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The Evolutionary Revolution'/><title type='text'>1/3 through Lily Hoag's THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION</title><content type='html'>Before starting this book I thought, "No, Lily could not possibly do it again." She has written two terrific books in the last couple years, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Parabola (&lt;/span&gt;Chiasmus) and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Changing &lt;/span&gt;(Fairy Tale Press). Finally, Les Figues has just come out with &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Evolutionary Revolution,&lt;/span&gt; a wild fabulist book where a number of remarkable things happen, among them females living in the sky and eating on the fertile moon at night. So far in my reading, it would seem she did it again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since I am not finished with the book, I would just like to share some of Lily's fine prose at this point. She writes in very short, half-page to two-page chapters that are often discontinuous. In one, entitled "Merman's Dream," these sentences appear:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Emily is caught in a merman's dream..Once, she tried to sing, to comfort herself, but her voice came out as soft cashmere ... Then, out of nowhere, she hears him singing. His dream is a muted song and Emily uses her fingers to draw out the lyrics, which she must translate into Man, and when she has, she will be able to talk to the merman...Emily doesn't know about the merman's vengeful nature. She doesn't know that the merman isn't dreaming at all, that he's letting her think he's dreaming so she can waste the little breath she has left in interpretation. He has no problem killing little angels...He laughs broadly. Emily hears this. She thinks it's another clue to help in her escape."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This parable about interpretation, which I take to suggest that interpretation often has absolute limits beyond which is profound misunderstanding, is part of a larger narrative in the book about mermen and women with wings on their thighs and wax on the eyes. It's a remarkably inventive book, sentence after sentence right on. I am looking forward to the rest.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1099495655003208139?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1099495655003208139/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/13-through-lily-hoags-evolutionary.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1099495655003208139'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1099495655003208139'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/13-through-lily-hoags-evolutionary.html' title='1/3 through Lily Hoag&apos;s THE EVOLUTIONARY REVOLUTION'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-33859624802015940</id><published>2010-05-19T18:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-19T18:23:29.978-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pavic'/><title type='text'>What is the value of reading &amp; thinking about reversible novels?</title><content type='html'>The only answer to the question I pose in the title is that it loosens our assumptions and perceptions, making our world richer, subtler, and more nuanced. In a variety of ways we can join with others interested in this stuff, helping to create a culture of greater richness and subtlety, hopefully one less easily controlled. It's not surprising that the artists, especially the experimental artists, and the intellectuals are among the first rounded up by abject dictators.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That's the value: it insists on the complexity and richness of life. And this is a threat to dictators who need to keep things simple.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-33859624802015940?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/33859624802015940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-is-value-of-reading-thinking-about.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/33859624802015940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/33859624802015940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-is-value-of-reading-thinking-about.html' title='What is the value of reading &amp; thinking about reversible novels?'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-719128449057132441</id><published>2010-05-19T17:52:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-19T18:23:53.838-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pavic'/><title type='text'>Pavic on "reversible" and "nonreversible" art</title><content type='html'>"Long ago I came to understand that the arts are "reversible and nonreversible." Some arts are reversible and enable the recipient to approach the work from various sides, or even to go around it and have a good look at it, changing the spot of the perspective, and the direction of his looking at it according to his own preference, as is the case with architecture, sculpture, or painting. Other, nonreversible arts, such as music and literature, look like one-way roads on which everything moves from the beginning to the end, from birth to death. I have always wished to make literature, whish is a nonreversible art, a reversible one. Therefore, my novels have no end in the classical meaning of the word."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is perhaps the key paragraph in Pavic's aesthetic. And it is far reaching. He sees the end of the 20th-century and the beginning of the 21st as not the end of the novel but the end of reading as we have known it. In a way, he preceded the computer, yet anticipated it. I believe it was Lance Olsen who said that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of the Khazars&lt;/span&gt; was the first book of the 21st century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But if a book has no definite end, don't we have some sort of anarchy? Doesn't every reader approach it in a different way? Yes and no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think of a sculpture. Yes, every viewer's walk around a sculpture is unique, but that does not mean that there is not some sense of a whole that remains fairly consistent. The philosopher Edmund Husserl famously pointed out that when we didn't see a side of a box, we knew it was there, and that this knowledge seemed to precede some sort of empirical learning. It is just how we are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this sense transfers to Pavic's reversible novels, they will hold together, just in a different manner from nonreversible ones. They will hold together as a concatenation of events rather than a string of events. Neither is more "true" than the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's more, let's face it, with nonreversible literary novels we often remember stuff that has little to do with their nonreversible quality. We remember a line. An image. A character's name or face or description. What's more, we remember a world or many worlds created by the author, worlds that, to a degree, hung together, and not solely because of a linear plot. In fact, in literary fiction the plot is often the least important part.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not true with a mystery or a horror novel. A lot of science fiction is more about the building of a world than a linear plot, but a plot often shows up there as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reading Pavic novels feels like doing a puzzle where there is no last piece. And its a delightful frustration.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-719128449057132441?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/719128449057132441/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/pavic-on-reversible-and-nonreversible.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/719128449057132441'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/719128449057132441'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/pavic-on-reversible-and-nonreversible.html' title='Pavic on &quot;reversible&quot; and &quot;nonreversible&quot; art'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-9219060703021224983</id><published>2010-05-18T18:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-18T19:15:45.513-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mackey: SONG OF THE ANDOUMBOULOU 28</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a continuing group of entries that focuses on Nathaniel Mackey's &lt;/span&gt;Song of the Andoumboulou&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; poetic series. To read all the entries in the group, click on Mackey in the labels section below.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;"Song of the Andoumboulou 28" tells the story of a bus accident from three different angles, each one getting progressively briefer, more compact, and more elliptical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first section is a page and a half long. It begins by saying "I dreamt we rode / in dreaming," but there seems nothing dreamlike about the description of the bus accident on a slippery road that is a "split-second short / of Ever After." They rest on snow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mackey keeps circling back to this image of snow, both as a protectress, pillow, and as "awayfulness, numb." Eventually, they are rescued when "a chain / came / down, yanked us out of it." The violence of the imagery, "yank," is typical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second section is more metaphorical. "We were ... / fish reeled / in prematurely tossed back, / script / hastily written hurriedly /erased ."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the third section he turns to "tricks played with letters": the anagram of "bus" is "sub," and they seem to be under the snow. The Andoumboulou, according to Dogon folklore, lived inside the earth, a failed first draft of humanity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mackey often compares us humans to them, since we, too, have not fully defined ourselves, are drafts in the making. He ends by pointing out how the numb fingers cannot turn the pages, which, nonetheless, are stuck together from being wet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This poem seems to begin by denying dream and denying reading. Could it be about the intrusion of violence and fear and pain into our sedate worlds of ritual and calm expectation? If so, what does it gain from coming at the accident from three different perspectives?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps ending with people stuck in the snow, not knowing if they are up or down, literally in the middle, Mackey's vision of us humans, as rough drafts, perhaps confused, always incomplete.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-9219060703021224983?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/9219060703021224983/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/mackey-song-of-andoumboulou-28.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/9219060703021224983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/9219060703021224983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/mackey-song-of-andoumboulou-28.html' title='Mackey: SONG OF THE ANDOUMBOULOU 28'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-895387495035320011</id><published>2010-05-16T12:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-16T13:08:41.797-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pavic'/><title type='text'>Pavic-TWO VERSIONS OF DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZARS</title><content type='html'>There are, literally, two different versions of this novel. The male version and the female version differ by a fairly short paragraph. And the paragraph is not all that different. They both make sense relative to the paragraph above and below, which are identical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a book that is blocks of text. After an introduction,  the next three sections, which correspond to the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian sources on the question of the Khazar's conversion to Judaism, can be read in any order. We may read these huge blocks of texts in any order we want. Then, apparently, the appendices and closing note we read last.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, maybe not. In the end is a list of main characters. We can trace each one as they appear in each of the main sections, and that, too, is a way of blocking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This book demands a read and a rereading. And maybe more. We must enter and exit in different places, come to inhabit it. It is true that we come to inhabit most good novels, but with them a literary convention pulls us through: we start at page one and end at the last page of the book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here, the only way to come to inhabit the book is to give that up, to inhabit it at different angles, and other ones. To enter many doors. To leave through many others.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-895387495035320011?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/895387495035320011/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/pavic-2-versions-of-dictionary-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/895387495035320011'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/895387495035320011'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/pavic-2-versions-of-dictionary-of.html' title='Pavic-TWO VERSIONS OF DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZARS'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1874039366008532659</id><published>2010-05-16T12:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-16T12:50:57.258-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mackey'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Back with Pavic and Mackey</title><content type='html'>I've been away for a month. I wrote a story that I then decided to expand into a novel. It was going to necessitate some serious research. Ultimately, I decided I could not adequately contextualize the material. So now I am going to cotinue working on Milorad Pavic's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of the Khazars&lt;/span&gt; by exploring quotations and using it as the springboard for my own writing. I will also take a look at some of the lit. crit. on the book, some of which is interesting. He was featured in a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Review of Contemporary Fiction.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am also going to continue discussing Nathaniel Mackey's poetry series, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Song of the Andoumboulou.&lt;/span&gt; I will take a different tack, however. I will begin to compare and contrast poems more rather than discuss them one at a time. I feel that I've gotten all I can hope to get going in that direction.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1874039366008532659?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1874039366008532659/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/back-with-pavic-and-mackey.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1874039366008532659'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1874039366008532659'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/back-with-pavic-and-mackey.html' title='Back with Pavic and Mackey'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3254277616275491097</id><published>2010-05-16T10:33:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-05-18T10:14:26.295-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mankwe ndosi'/><title type='text'>Mankwe Ndosi &amp; AS THE RHYTHM CHANGES</title><content type='html'>What should I do? The 20th-century is replete with examples of white people, like me, defining, evaluating, and stealing the cultural works of Africans and African Americans. Yet I saw a decidedly Afrocentric show last night in St. Paul, put on by five black women, that I feel compelled to write about for three reasons. One is for a practical reason — what if no one else writes about this? — and the second is because I am a writer and I write about what moves me. The third reason is because art work coming from this and similar perspectives is once again under attack in portions of the U.S. Arizona is attempting to water down or get rid of its ethnic studies classes. I guess they want one ethnicity at the center of study: white. Maybe all of us need to celebrate non-white art before we are all impoverished by losing it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All that being said, what should I do? I don't want to be some authoritarian critic "explaining" or "interpreting" the work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps, I will write questions to hold that voice at bay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some background first: The piece was written and produced by Mankwe Ndosi, a singular talent from Minneapolis who is of  Tanzanian &amp;amp; Midwestern descent. She has performed internationally, and works in the media of theater, dance, music,  spoken word and improvisation.  Go&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGIamDBePJk&amp;amp;feature=related"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt; to see an example of her work. &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70YgMhyIFf8"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is an example of her singing with Nicole Mitchell's her band in Italy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the show they used instruments built by Douglas Ewart, who has had some of his pieces purchased by major museums. They were made out of, I kid you not, plastic cartons, skiis, racquetball racquets, crutches with bells attached, rolling pins, and so on. The quality and sound of this seeming detritus is amazing. When you see and hear them, you realize why museums would want to purchase them. See some of his instruments &lt;a href="http://www.aacmchicago.org/douglas-r-ewart-musical-art-instruments-exhibition"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"As the Rhythm Changes" was based on interviews with 20 Minnesotans conducted by Mankwe. Most dwelled in the Twin Cities, and a few lived on a farm that had been in the family for generations. She asked the same questions of all of them: 1. What shapes our everyday routines? 2. How do you keep your spirit nourished? 3. What about the changes, either by your own will, or because life changes? 4. How do you see humanity in relationship with the natural world?&lt;br /&gt;The four different pieces performed last night were all inspired by an interview with a single person. The performance itself was funny, joyous, at times scary and angry. There was some talking, a lot of singing, some dancing, some improv.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;MY QUESTIONS&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Question 1: What is the relationship between art and the everyday? How do Ewart, with his musical skiis and rolling pins and Ndosi, with her interviews and musicality and dance, approach this relationship? similarities, differences?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Mankwe during the performance said that the percussion and singing (the art) provided a bed for the people's stories to float on. Does this entail that art can coax out and offer portions of the everyday to the audience? How is the everyday changed by being held up by such a bed? To what extent does it matter?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. In a related question, could Mankwe be anything but gentle in her way of characterizing these interviews (i.e. she doesn't say that she "wrested the essence from the interview and boiled it down to its crucial points")?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. Could the everyday be a construction made by the art? In a crutch with bells on it, does Ewart see himself as pulling the musical possibilities out of the crutch, realizing  its latent possibilities,  projecting an imaginative construction on it, or something else I am not thinking of?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. This I am sure about: in some of Ewart's instruments there is a hidden gentleness. After the show a performer, Aimee K. Bryant, kindly showed me two of Ewart's shaken percussive instruments that, even after the sound falls away, the body of the performer can continue to feel the vibrations. Is there something sly about this "hidden" conversation from the instrument to the body? We obviously think about the body's impact on instruments all the time, but what about vice versa?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Mankwe asked her interviewees "What shapes our everyday routines?" To what extent does art do this? To what extent is a dinner table, set up with care, itself a work of art? It is art - ifice. To what extent, then, is Mankwe remaking art of art, thereby helping us to appreciate it all the more?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. "We are the world we live in." Is the world art? Is the world art - ifice? Do we want to make a distinction?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Here is probably the most important question, given Mankwe's stated activist concerns: How can what I have written help us to better life?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am going to try to answer this question. It will be based on something Alan Golding wrote a number of years ago in a book entitled &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;From Outlaw to Classic. &lt;/span&gt;What I have written is read by people interested in the vanguard of fiction, poetry and jazz. They are culturally involved people and cultural workers who feel that more "mainstream" venues do not allow them to explore and express what they must. For the most part they are white, but not exclusively.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since they focus on art more for the sake of their vision or compulsion, it is more likely to be tied to the nerve endings and radical fissures in the culture. To use an overly simple opposition, their culture is wedded to exploration; the other culture is wedded to the market. This piece I have written is one small part of the culture of exploration. It helps to build on it, to push, to trouble it, to wonder. Obviously, it won't have as great an impact as a Mankwe's play or a Toni Morrison novel, but that's not the point, is it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This vanguard culture is hardly going to create any sort of revolution. What it does is attract people in college towns and big cities into groups of like-minded people who can support each others' values, work, and ideas. In that way everyday lives can be affected, and electoral politics can even be changed on a small scale. It is possible for left-wing candidates to be elected from neighborhoods where such people live. And, given what's happening in Arizona, we need all of those types we can get.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Well, this wandered a bit but I think you get the idea. Let me end by listing the other people in the show: Libby Turner-Opanga, Sarah Greer, Aimee K. Bryant, and Kenna Sarge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3254277616275491097?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3254277616275491097/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/mankwe-ndosi-as-rhythm-changes.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3254277616275491097'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3254277616275491097'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/05/mankwe-ndosi-as-rhythm-changes.html' title='Mankwe Ndosi &amp; AS THE RHYTHM CHANGES'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7195783683016787053</id><published>2010-04-15T10:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-15T12:11:10.086-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Mackey's Song of the Andouboulou 27 (entry 2)</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;[This series of posts reflect on  Nathaniel  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Mackey's&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;Song of the  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;a series of  poems that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt; has been   working on through three books.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt; His  latest book with  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt; poems in them, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;Splay  Anthem,&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; won the National Book Award&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;. I take into consideration, in addition to the  poems   themselves, his allusions, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Mackey's&lt;/span&gt; prose, interviews with him, and    critical discussions of his work. As always, I look forward to hearing    your thoughts. To access all of the posts, click on "Nathaniel &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;"   in  the list to the right.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: trebuchet ms; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The next section continues the images of alienation — "dreamt of lone coast" — but in a language more taught and punchy. The lines, filled with one or two syllable words, range between two and five words long (excluding the short one-word lines that frequently end stanzas.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; In the previous stanza we have lines filled with multi-syllabic words, and the lines are often a little bit longer. When we reach the end of the second section, the lines become quite short.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Mackey's poems never stop dancing, this is as close as he comes to claustrophobia: "cut string caroling / world / relapse." The final section uses very short lines, goes by very quickly, is short, and returns us to worldly imagery and away from dream imagery. The persona in the poem, "the she" who would seem to be the female half of the original twins of the Dogon mythology. Punning, Mackey writes "'mu' more related  / to miss than to myth."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A poem that pushes and pulls, formally, thematically, imagistically, and so on. It pushes towards embrace, sometimes violent, sometimes comforting, then pulls toward isolation at "Nudge." The poem is the process of reading it, one that leads us through a thicket of complications, "line blurring truth," emphasis on the adjective "blurring," so that truth itself is like a verb, always blurring, never clearing.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7195783683016787053?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7195783683016787053/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/next-section-continues-images-of.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7195783683016787053'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7195783683016787053'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/next-section-continues-images-of.html' title='Mackey&apos;s Song of the Andouboulou 27 (entry 2)'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8818716711188465632</id><published>2010-04-12T16:44:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-15T10:49:09.050-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Nathaniel Mackey's Song of the Andoumboulou 27</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;[This series of posts reflect on Nathaniel  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Mackey's&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Song of the  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;a series of  poems that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt; has been  working on through three books.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt; His latest book with  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt; poems in them, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Splay Anthem,&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; won the National Book Award&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;. I take into consideration, in addition to the poems   themselves, his allusions, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Mackey's&lt;/span&gt; prose, interviews with him, and   critical discussions of his work. As always, I look forward to hearing   your thoughts. To access all of the posts, click on "Nathaniel &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;"   in the list to the right.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Song of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt; 27&lt;/span&gt; immediately struck me as different from 26 in three ways: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;it is  less broken up into subsections, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;the texture of the language feels tauter and rougher, and it describes less traveling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The poem is divided into three parts: one is two pages long, one a page long, and the last about a half a page long. It begins with horrifying images of alienation told in a language &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;ungraspable&lt;/span&gt; but all too evident: "Could / even feel the grain of his / back, whose hips would/ be hers were she her own to / remake..." This is one of many images of discomfort, "grain," coupled with powerlessness — "were she her own." She ends up on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Loquat&lt;/span&gt; Cove, "also known as Nudge" — which seems an undeniably ugly word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There she is connected with a man who may physically rape who, but who certainly does on an emotional level. He seems to leave in a space ship after the act. This is based on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Mackey's&lt;/span&gt; reading of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Pale Fox &lt;/span&gt;by Marcel &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;Griaule&lt;/span&gt; and Germaine &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Dieterlen&lt;/span&gt;. It states that in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Dogon&lt;/span&gt; cosmology a trip to a distant, twin star is described. In an earlier post, I discussed some of the present controversy surrounding &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;Griaule&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Dieterlen's&lt;/span&gt; work in anthropology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what does this mean poetically? In &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;Dogon&lt;/span&gt; cosmology the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;Andoumboulous&lt;/span&gt; are not particularly evident. They live in the earth and are small, considered a "rough draft" of humanity. The "Song of the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;Andoumboulou&lt;/span&gt;" is just a minor funeral song. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt; has not gone after the most important aspects of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Dogon&lt;/span&gt; belief. He has taken little slivers and slices, from the edges, from the margins. He believes that we humans are the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Andoumboulous&lt;/span&gt;, in that we are the rough drafts, at the edges, in that we are always remaking ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This poem is always remaking itself as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I will work with other aspects of this poem tomorrow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8818716711188465632?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8818716711188465632/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou_12.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8818716711188465632'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8818716711188465632'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou_12.html' title='Nathaniel Mackey&apos;s Song of the Andoumboulou 27'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7548992819718333887</id><published>2010-04-01T07:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-12T16:44:13.235-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Nathaniel Mackey's Song of the Andoumboulou 26 (Post 3)</title><content type='html'>(See below for first two posts.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As with most of Mackey's poems, this is a poems of motion on the literal (traveling), figurative ("transcendent" planes) and allegorical (the buried narrative as a search for knowledge) level. What we see is that this search for knowledge takes place within fog, within the clamminess near the ocean, within thunderstorms, and in the brittle dryness of a low-branched forest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also begins by describing how what seems a valley turns into a precipice. It ends with the fissured earth after an earthquake.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Such is the sight and site of communication, miscommunication, writing and miswriting. The wet book and the burning book.  The final fissure is the bass, the foundation, and the shaken frame, what makes possible the weaving in a Dogon loom. It is the instability that makes weaving, and language, possible. (Mackey discusses this in his essays.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bass itself is moving. Music works by setting up patterns and altering them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The earth is moving.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Stra" for "stratum"; "stra" for "stray."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7548992819718333887?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7548992819718333887/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7548992819718333887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7548992819718333887'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou.html' title='Nathaniel Mackey&apos;s Song of the Andoumboulou 26 (Post 3)'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1803880666127887972</id><published>2010-03-31T09:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-01T08:34:23.831-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Song of the Andoumboulou'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nathaniel Mackey'/><title type='text'>Nathaniel Mackey's Song of the Andoumboulou 26 (Post 2)</title><content type='html'>(See below for the first post on this poem.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a decidedly dramatic, narrative poem that nevertheless buries it's story. Before getting to some of the poem's myriad subtleties, it would help to identify some of the broad outlines of the narrative. I am taking some liberties here, but this is what I see as the basis of what is going on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. We begin with the narrator and at least one companion traveling. They come to a valley, but the closer they get to it the more it becomes clear that it is a precipice with exposed rock stratum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.One of the traveler's keeps uttering a pessimistic phrase, apparently having received a great, gaping psychic wound.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The first section ends with a sort of religious rite, with altars, horns, flutes, and drums. This seems to be the conclusion of that: "Edge be my birthright." The ritual reveals that we are all always already at the precipice, on the edge of time, on the edge of one  culture relative to another, and in our decisions creating an ever changing culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. The next stanza begins halfway down the next page and below a horizontal line, meaning that it has the status of both a stanza and a poem within a poem. Again, they are traveling. Apparently, on a rope bridge beyond a ledge and across a gorge.  It creates vertigo. The word "home" becomes relative, and seems to be only the ledge at the other end of the bridge. Is there no "home" in this radical fluidity and dynamism?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Next, they are apparently traveling on the ocean and washed up on Lone Shore. Apparently, the coast was supposed to be the place of the utopic city Zar. Instead, it was the apparent site of a massacre: "stripped limbs / catching /  late October / light." The stanza also repeats words such as "again" and "rebegan," emphasizing how often such actions occur.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. The next section is quite difficult to get a hold of. A &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;ta'wil&lt;/span&gt; is an explanation or interpretation of the Qar'an. Above the mention of this are the images — champagne, roses, grapes — associated with the image of the altar in section three. Somehow, this interpretation seems to leave the people in the poem bereft and "twinless," twins being important to the spiritual beliefs of the Dogon. It is important to note that in this place there is an image of a book with blank, watery pages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. We are back on Lone Coast and beginning to bid the senses goodbye. They hold a hollow head to his ear. Most of the rest of this stanza  focuses on how listening through the shell connects him to nature but divides him from people, who for the first time he refers to as "they." They seem to climb a precipice to the land of low branches, which Mackey seems to figure a little more positively than the damp beach. Here, the "book is drawn in flammable ink," and it ends by emphasizing the book of undone. Nonetheless, the dry underbrush scratches the bare skin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. This is another poem-within-a-poem. First it says that they now go by "two new names, / Hummed Outer Meat" and  "Hollowness." Then it describes a nasty tale rehearsed by the sea shell he is still listening to. It is a meeting described by a lot ob abusive-sounding verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. It ends with three people separating. Two people run toward Loquat Cove, and the narrator runs by himself away from it. Then an earthquake intervenes, and the "whistling / fissure" seems to cause everyone to stop their running.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My next post will be more interpretive&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1803880666127887972?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1803880666127887972/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou_31.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1803880666127887972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1803880666127887972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou_31.html' title='Nathaniel Mackey&apos;s Song of the Andoumboulou 26 (Post 2)'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-6033032747657360273</id><published>2010-03-31T08:11:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-01T08:10:40.095-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Andouboulou'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nathaniel Mackey'/><title type='text'>Nathaniel Mackey's Song of the Andoumboulou 26</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;[After about a six-month break, I have decided to return to  this continuing series of posts that reflect on Nathaniel Mackey's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Song of the  Andoumboulou, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;a series of poems that Mackey has been  working on through three books.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt; His latest book with  Andoumboulou poems in them, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Splay Anthem,&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt; won the National Book Award&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;. I take into consideration, in addition to the poems  themselves, his allusions, Mackey's prose, interviews with him, and  critical discussions of his work. As always, I look forward to hearing  your thoughts. To access all of the posts, click on "Nathaniel Mackey"  in the list to the right.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;[I am  currently discussing Mackey's book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;Whatsaid Serif. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:trebuchet ms;font-size:100%;"  &gt;If for some reason you cannot buy it (and I sincerely hope you  do), many of the poems can be found &lt;a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=S6V5GgJKsp0C&amp;amp;pg=PA51&amp;amp;lpg=PA51&amp;amp;dq=%2Bstra+precipice&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=EqCNvE-gW4&amp;amp;sig=ozLLMFzfAwaxN5ngq9l62iaH8LA&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=slmuS_PXOYWdlgfi_OWQAQ&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%2Bstra%20precipice&amp;amp;f=false"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.].&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Allusions / Definitions&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&gt;This  poem is the first of a group of ten that go under the heading "stra." I  am not sure what Mackey is referring to. It could be a simple anagram  for "star." It could also be the name for "sîra," what seems to be an  Arabic name for a story that is part of a larger saga. Maybe it will  come clearer later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;Ra — Egyptian sun god&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;Raz —  unsure. Certainly negative relative to the majesty of Ra.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;C'rib  — seems to be the proper noun for the blow he suffered to the back of  the head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/zar.htm"&gt;Zar&lt;/a&gt; — Religious ceremony in the Sudan and Southern Egypt conducted by women and intended to cast out demons.&lt;br /&gt;&gt;Loquat leaves — In China and Japan, special healing  qualities are attributed to these&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;Profligate — wildly  licentious&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Ta'wil— explanation, interpretation, esp. of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Qur'an.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;twin / twinless —  In Dogon cosmology, according to the anthropologists Marcel Griaule and  Germaine Dieterlen, twins are important in their creation myth. [See &lt;a href="http://anthropology.uwaterloo.ca/courses/Anth311/dogon.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  After you get to the page, click on the html given about half way  down.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;gremlin — Created in the Royal Air Force during World  War II, this is a mischievous folk figure who causes trouble with planes  and aeronautics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                   _________________________________________&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before jumping into  a discussion of the poem proper, I want to address the experience of  reading it. It can be frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the one hand, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; writes  with enough power, authority, and narrative momentum to create a desire  for knowing what is going on. On the other hand, he does not provide  enough information for figuring this out. So we are left with the sense  that something mysterious is happening, but we cannot get to the bottom  of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No matter how many allusions we track down, no matter how  much unusual diction we make clear, we will remain ill at ease.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously,  frustrating the reader cannot be the goal of these poems. So we must  look elsewhere than traditional notions of how a poem is held together. I  will need to formulate this more carefully later, but &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; seems to  be aimed at the reading process itself, at the coming to fruition of a  sense, and insight, a togetherness, only to watch it dissipate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other  poets have done this sort of thing: &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Ashbery&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Ron &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Silliman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, Lyn &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Hejininian&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and  so on. What sets &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; apart is that he does this in a  cross-cultural arena. In a way, he ups the stakes: with him, we are not  just learning how to read complex poetry, we are learning how to read  each other in our cultural differences, in what &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; would  call the difficult creakiness that attends all communication, both &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;intra&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;- and  inter- cultural.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My next post on &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Mackey&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; will  consider #26 more particularly. At a later date, I will consider how he  specifically contributes to contemporary poetry.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-6033032747657360273?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/6033032747657360273/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6033032747657360273'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/6033032747657360273'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/nathaniel-mackeys-song-of-andoumboulou.html' title='Nathaniel Mackey&apos;s Song of the Andoumboulou 26'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-8885599835528432270</id><published>2010-03-24T14:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-24T14:49:47.579-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pavic imitations jefferson hansen'/><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic Imitation #4</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"language so wild that ink could not hold it&lt;/span&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;clunk and clatter&lt;br /&gt;kick and pop&lt;br /&gt;it's a tick&lt;br /&gt;it's a trick&lt;br /&gt;it's a words gone wild show!&lt;br /&gt;win your tickets&lt;br /&gt;batter and butter&lt;br /&gt;bee bob a dee do&lt;br /&gt;slum dumb and sloo slop&lt;br /&gt;pick a winner&lt;br /&gt;with no criteria&lt;br /&gt;coo coo and zoo&lt;br /&gt;what should you do&lt;br /&gt;no rule no pool&lt;br /&gt;no zule jewel fool&lt;br /&gt;a choice with no reason&lt;br /&gt;pick a packa picka&lt;br /&gt;naked as a nincompoop&lt;br /&gt;oop oop oop&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-8885599835528432270?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/8885599835528432270/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-4.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8885599835528432270'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/8885599835528432270'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-4.html' title='Milorad Pavic Imitation #4'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3434823149185641056</id><published>2010-03-24T13:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-24T13:53:05.220-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dictionary of the Khazars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic's DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZAR'S #4</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a series of entries on   &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Milorad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  writings, click for the &lt;a href="http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html"&gt;first   post&lt;/a&gt; in the series.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;These are lists of  quotations from the book that are quite beautiful, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I think. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I am quoting them in  order to share my enthusiasm and to hope the magic rubs off, a little.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note: At some point I will need to discuss &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt; use of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;nonsequitars&lt;/span&gt; in paragraphs and even, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;occasionally&lt;/span&gt;, in sentences. His paragraphs are often difficult to digest because they drift through a series of topics, often without transitions, rather than developing one or two carefully defined ones. At times, even his sentences shift topic half way through. I don't yet know what to make of this, but I am noting when it happens and will discuss it later.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Below are some more interesting quotations:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The he yielded and picked one her breasts like a peach. 43&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I, who have experience with colors, inks, and letters, recognize each &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;letter&lt;/span&gt; by its smell in the damp night, and, lying in my corner, I read by the smells entire pages &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;of&lt;/span&gt; the sealed and rolled scrolls that lie somewhere in the attic of the castle. 45&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Kyr&lt;/span&gt; Avram prefers to read in the cold, clothed only in a shirt, subjecting his body to shivers, and the only part of his reading he considers worth remembering and noting in the book is what penetrates the shivering to reach his attention. 45&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One night in &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;Gyüla&lt;/span&gt;, Father came across an enormous snowman seated on the latrine. He struck him with the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;lantern&lt;/span&gt;, killed him, and went to dinner. 51&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is only an illusion that our thoughts are in our heads...Our heads and we as a whole are in our thoughts. 61&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He was creating the first letters of the Slavic alphabet. he started with rounded letters, but the Slavic language was so wild that the ink could not hold it, and so he made a second alphabet of barred letters and caged the unruly language like a bird. 64&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for at the bottom of every dream lies God. 68&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3434823149185641056?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3434823149185641056/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavics-dictionary-of-khazars-4.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3434823149185641056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3434823149185641056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavics-dictionary-of-khazars-4.html' title='Milorad Pavic&apos;s DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZAR&apos;S #4'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1733196881253766851</id><published>2010-03-21T08:53:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-21T08:55:35.763-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic - Imitation #3</title><content type='html'>&lt;pre class="msgPlainWrap"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;       red sadness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;eyes too tired&lt;br /&gt;for attention are&lt;br /&gt;rimmed&lt;br /&gt;with a red sadness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the maple limb,&lt;br /&gt;tilting limp&lt;br /&gt;from the tree is&lt;br /&gt;rimmed with a&lt;br /&gt;red sadness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the pock mark,&lt;br /&gt;the excema, the&lt;br /&gt;ringworm are&lt;br /&gt;rimmed with a red&lt;br /&gt;sadness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the way to drink&lt;br /&gt;is blocked,&lt;br /&gt;all doors&lt;br /&gt;rimmed with&lt;br /&gt;a red sadness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;apples and oranges&lt;br /&gt;are not rimmed&lt;br /&gt;with a red sadness,&lt;br /&gt;neither are tulips&lt;br /&gt;or geraniums&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;this cat, restful, tail&lt;br /&gt;curved and curled&lt;br /&gt;seems rimmed with&lt;br /&gt;no red and no&lt;br /&gt;sadness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;it seems half asleep&lt;br /&gt;ready and not ready&lt;br /&gt;in the midst and&lt;br /&gt;slightly removed,&lt;br /&gt;rimmed with blue&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1733196881253766851?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1733196881253766851/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-3.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1733196881253766851'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1733196881253766851'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-3.html' title='Milorad Pavic - Imitation #3'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5483639691966316140</id><published>2010-03-21T08:45:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-21T08:51:12.679-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic - Imitation #2</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a series of entries on    &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Milorad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;   writings, click for the &lt;a href="http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html"&gt;first    post&lt;/a&gt; in the series. In addition, this is one of a number of  imitations of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  writings.] &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before the morning of the sideways sun a fish darts and flutters in the watery sky. In the darkness, a fish that looks sound. In the night before the sideways sun fish flit like purple and dart like blue. In the evening before the night of the watery sky, before the morning of the sideways sun, fish could look a sound but not be seen in cloaking dusk. Birds cry against fish. In the afternoon before the night of the watery sky birds inched their songs left, their songs right. In the morning, fish sleep their &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;sound&lt;/span&gt; in the curtain of light.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5483639691966316140?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5483639691966316140/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-2.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5483639691966316140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5483639691966316140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-2.html' title='Milorad Pavic - Imitation #2'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1487747841578182733</id><published>2010-03-21T06:18:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-26T12:40:57.419-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic - Imitation #1</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a series of entries on   &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Milorad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  writings, click for the &lt;a href="http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html"&gt;first   post&lt;/a&gt; in the series. In addition, this is one of a number of imitations of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt; writings. The first sentence is taken directly from &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Pavic&lt;/span&gt;.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At night there appeared a letter inscribed on each eyelid. If you kept track of them, night after night, they spelled out two-word lines of poetry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it was never apparent where one poem ended and the next began. Great scholars were brought in to discuss and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;decide&lt;/span&gt; on where the breaks between poms were. Some argued for temporal breaks based on weeks and months, for instance. Others on thematic development. And still others on the shifting cadences that billowed and slackened; spinning, twisting; up, down, left, and right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;continues&lt;/span&gt; today, even as the woman has become older than old, and the first generation of scholars has mostly died and been replaced by a second.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She herself has never spoken about the words on her eyelids. Except to say, "I don't see what the fuss is about. If the words on my eyes were magnets on the refrigerator nobody would be talking."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could it be that the significance is in an accoutrement of the eye &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;offering&lt;/span&gt; the poem rather than only &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;reading&lt;/span&gt; it?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1487747841578182733?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1487747841578182733/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-1.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1487747841578182733'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1487747841578182733'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-imitation-1.html' title='Milorad Pavic - Imitation #1'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-3291724468476467394</id><published>2010-03-21T05:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-24T13:40:12.382-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dictionary of the Khazars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Pavic's "Dictionary of the Khazars" #3</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a series of entries on  &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Milorad&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pavic's&lt;/span&gt; writings, click for the &lt;a href="http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html"&gt;first  post&lt;/a&gt; in the series.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;These are lists of quotations from the book that are quite beautiful, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I think. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I am quoting them in order to share my enthusiasm and to hope the magic rubs off, a little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"During his long life he and a monk from another monastery played chess without a board or pieces." 190&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He took off his uniform in a hotel and for the first time saw his scars in a copper mirror. They smelled of bird-droppings." 191&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"For, as they caressed the rocks, slipped through their crevices, and skirted their tops, the winds always played a different tune, until the marble and the masons disappeared forever, washed away by the rains, whipped by the glances of passersby, and licked by &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt; tongues of rams and bulls." 199&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Contemporaries say that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Mutsaf&lt;/span&gt; Beg &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Sablak&lt;/span&gt; could not keep food down and that, like a turtledove, he ate and secreted simultaneously." 200&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Because the book does not have to be read in strict order, these quotations jump back to early in the book now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"At night she wore a letter inscribed on each eyelid...each letter kills as soon as it is read. They were written by blind men, and the ladies-in-waiting shut their eyes when they attended to the princess in the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;morning&lt;/span&gt;, before her bath. Thus, she was protected from her enemies while she slept." 21&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Every morning &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;she&lt;/span&gt; would create a hitherto unseen image of her own face." 21&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"'Khazar face' referred to ... starting each day as someone else, with a completely new and unfamiliar face, so that even the closest of kin were at pains to recognize each other." 22&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Family inheritances are meted out according to the color of one's beard." 26&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Years passed like turtles." 27&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He has a broad chest the size of a cage for large birds or a small beast, and is often the target of murderers, for there is a popular poem saying that his bones are made of gold." 28&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"I saw him stand beneath a tree, his saber drawn, waiting for the wind to blow; as the first fruit dropped, he slashed it with his saber in mid-air." 30&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"A look that fells birds" 31&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-3291724468476467394?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/3291724468476467394/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars-3.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3291724468476467394'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/3291724468476467394'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars-3.html' title='Pavic&apos;s &quot;Dictionary of the Khazars&quot; #3'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7689951946067725121</id><published>2010-03-19T14:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-21T06:00:32.469-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dictionary of the Khazars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Milorad Pavic, DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZARS, Post #2</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;[This is one of a series of entries on Milorad Pavic's writings. Here is the &lt;a href="http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html"&gt;first post&lt;/a&gt; in the series.] &lt;/span&gt;Here is a list of some of Pavic's remarkable sentences. I am copying them down simply to share their wildness and weirdness, and, to fess up completely, in the hope that some of his tremendous skill might rub off on me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"It is impossible to tell what the 1691 Daubmannus edition of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Khazar Dictionary&lt;/span&gt; looked like, since the only remaining exemplars, the poisoned and the silver (companion) copies, were both destroyed, each in it own part of the world." (8)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Only fragments of the Daubmannus edition have reached us, just as sleep leaves a dusting of sand in the eye." (9)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The hierarchy of death is, in fact, the only thing that makes possible a system of contacts between the various levels of reality in an otherwise vast space where deaths endlessly repeat themselves like echoes within echoes." 127&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He left behind his lute of white tortoiseshell, which that very same day began walking, turned back into an animal, and swam off into the Black Sea." 128&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"After that, they never really abandoned Islam, although they went on to convert to Christianity and then to Judaism." (135)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"They are so resourceful they have oysters growing on trees." (144)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The river that flows through the Khazar Empire has two names, because in the same riverbed half of its course runs from east to west and the other half from west to east." 144&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He was fond of saying that this revelation had come to him once when a fly was drowning in his eye as he watched a fish, and thus the fish fed on the fly." (154)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He had a horse so swift that its ears flew like birds, even when it stood in place." (156)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"hot bread which has the dark face of your father and the navel of your mother." (159)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He would string and tune his lute by the stars." (161)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"If all human dreams could be assembled together, they would form a huge man, a human being the size of a continent." (165)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"she with the dappled eyes that changed color in the cold like flowers" (161)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"She traveled thousands of miles to die in your dream" (163)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"In dream hunting the words of the Khazar dictionary are like a lion's tracks in the sand to the ordinary hunter." (165)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"He was a feminine key with a hole in its shaft, looking for a masculine lock with a bolt in its keyhole." (170)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"She suffered from an unusual disease: her left hand was faster than her right. She claimed her left hand was so fast that it would die before she did." (173)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Darkness was falling in reddish flakes." (177)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"His deaths tore him into such shreds that nothing was left of him except this story." (181)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;More Later&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7689951946067725121?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7689951946067725121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-dictionary-of-khazars.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7689951946067725121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7689951946067725121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/milorad-pavic-dictionary-of-khazars.html' title='Milorad Pavic, DICTIONARY OF THE KHAZARS, Post #2'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7276036764359630098</id><published>2010-03-19T13:27:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2010-03-20T13:33:38.113-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dictionary of the Khazars'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Milorad Pavic'/><title type='text'>Pavic's "Dictionary of the Khazars"</title><content type='html'>The Serbo-Croation novel &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Dictionary of the Khazars&lt;/span&gt;, by Milorad Pavic, stands out, for me, as the single most memorable novel of the last quarter century. It is a book about reading, about linearity and non-linearity, the nether world of dreams, poetry, and art.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After a short introduction, it takes the form of three "books" — Christian, Islam, and Jewish. Each loosely pertains to a time when the Khazars worshiped that particular Abrahamic faith. Pavic informs us that there is no need to read the books in order. You could start with the Jewish and end with the Christian, or even jump around a lot more than that. In addition, Pavic has provided an index so that readers can trace characters and events as they appear in the various books.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Khazars existed as a nomadic tribe of the southern Caucasus who came to their greatest power in the 6th and 7 centuries CE. However, the novel focuses on the scholarship on the Khazars that was written in the 17th century. It was at that time that the original dictionary was written. However, through various happenstance — from one copy being poisoned to another that was used for fire, the dictionary only survived in scraps. That's what we have today: scraps written in the 17th century in various languages about a people who lived a thousand years before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously, Pavic is asking us to move into the realm of representation. He is eliminating the origin, the historical Khazar people, and even much of the representation of them, the dictionary. What's left are signs, many decontextualized. This does sound like standard post-modernism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it doesn't stop there. For me Pavic is more than the play of signs and representations. After all, there is a dark side to the stories here. And a randomness. In one, for instance, "dream hunters" pursue a certain precursor. "If we follow our angel precursor when he is ascending the heavenly ladder, we approach God Himself, and if we have the misfortune to follow him when he falls, we move away from God, but we can know neither one nor the other." Then, in the next paragraph, he says that it "is a matter of technique."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pavic has moved us into a field where he takes back what he gives, refuses to assert how much of our most important efforts can be attributed to luck or technique, and goes on his merry way. This is a book of magic. But underneath the surface, always, it is a horror novel. Is it stretching it to say that Pavic wrote this book as Yugoslavia was disintegrating, and the political events had an impact? I don't know. Writers living in political upheaval are as likely to use writing to escape from such horrors as to explore them, however obliquely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is certain is that we can just imagine Milorad Pavic's twinkling, mischievous eyes throughout our reading of this book. But I also imagine them to be rimmed with a red sadness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We already are and never will become fully what we are.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7276036764359630098?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7276036764359630098/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7276036764359630098'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7276036764359630098'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/pavics-dictionary-of-khazars.html' title='Pavic&apos;s &quot;Dictionary of the Khazars&quot;'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-1551765024764276929</id><published>2010-03-11T23:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-03-14T04:31:51.513-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Geoffry Gatza on his book KENMORE</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" &gt;Geoffrey Gatza is perhaps best known as the indefatigable publisher behind BlazeVox Books, which puts out a couple dozen titles of innovative literature each year. However, he also writes. He has a number of adult and children's titles under his name. This interview concerns one book, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Kenmore: Poem Unlimited&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;(In the interests of full disclosure, BlazeVox published a novel by me, &lt;/span&gt;...And Beefheart Saved Craig.&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;1. Before we get to Kenmore, you're created an amazing press with BlazeVox.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;How many books do you put out in a year? What is your guiding philosophy? Do&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;your books stay in print? What else should we know about BlazeVox?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our mission, after ten years is still very hard to pin down. We represent&lt;br /&gt;neither a group of writers nor one mode of writing. We enjoy innovative&lt;br /&gt;works of literature in whatever format that it chooses to find itself. We&lt;br /&gt;wish to promote new style, emerging voices and provide an outlet for these&lt;br /&gt;artists to express their artistic visions. This sounds good, and in turn we&lt;br /&gt;will try to live up to these standards and will do whatever is humanly&lt;br /&gt;possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BlazeVOX Books has published over 190 volumes, mostly poetry, and will&lt;br /&gt;publish approximately 50 to 75 more each year during 2010 and 2011. Our&lt;br /&gt;latest book authors include Anne Waldman with illustrations by George&lt;br /&gt;Scheenman, Ted Greenwald, Celia Gilbert, Raymond Federman and Craig&lt;br /&gt;Paulenich. A detailed list of all of our titles is located in our online&lt;br /&gt;catalog blazevox.org/catalog.htm &lt;http: org="" htm=""&gt; .&lt;br /&gt;Also just out is the latest issue of BlazeVOX2k9 and online journal of&lt;br /&gt;voice. But wait, there¹s more; our Wilde Reading Room has 75 ebooks&lt;br /&gt;available for free download. As you can see, BlazeVOX [books] presents some&lt;br /&gt;of the most original voices writing today. Check out our new catalog here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blazevox.org/catalog.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.blazevox.org/catalog.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Outlets of publications:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Online Journal:&lt;br /&gt;Coming into our tenth year BlazeVOX 2kX Spring 2010 will be out on May 1,&lt;br /&gt;2009. We publish about 50 writers from around the world in each issue. We&lt;br /&gt;publish in HTML and PDF and enhanced PDF, Podcasts, and now including movies&lt;br /&gt;of original performances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Online Free Ebook Library: Wilde Reading Room&lt;br /&gt;Each issue of BlazeVOX had an update to our ebook section. Named for Oscar&lt;br /&gt;Wilde, our Wilde Reading room is one of our most popular section on our&lt;br /&gt;site. Each of our titles have around 6 to 7 thousand unique downloads on&lt;br /&gt;each of our titles. This is astounding when most of our POD books sell&lt;br /&gt;rather infrequently on Amazon.com or through SPD. It seems that people do&lt;br /&gt;want full-length collections of contemporary writers but are reluctant to&lt;br /&gt;purchase a book. This is wonderful for us, as it costs next to nothing to&lt;br /&gt;make an ebook. We use the same method to produce an ebook as we do to make a&lt;br /&gt;POD book, only we do not have use the materials to make the thing so it this&lt;br /&gt;is an area we plan to focus in on in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;POD Book Catalog:&lt;br /&gt;We have been making print on demand books since 2004. Since then we have&lt;br /&gt;published 200 titles and have plans to continue on for a great long while. A&lt;br /&gt;book is the primary object of the writer. A painter can take her painting&lt;br /&gt;and place it in any venue she sees fit and her goal is accomplished. But an&lt;br /&gt;author without a tangible means of publication is stifled. Even with the&lt;br /&gt;appeal, popularity and cost of the ebook, a writer still wants to have a&lt;br /&gt;book in hand, if only to show Mom, hey I have done something. We have found&lt;br /&gt;a small bit of success in our business model. Books do not sell well, so we&lt;br /&gt;cannot rely on one title to make a splash. Instead we publish many titles of&lt;br /&gt;very deserving authors to make things even out. With this kind of model we&lt;br /&gt;are able to be more accommodating to writers who may not be able to publish&lt;br /&gt;their works in other venues.&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;2. I am intrigued by the subtitle of Kenmore, "Poem Unlimited." What's the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;story behind it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The phrase comes from Hamlet, in scene two when the actors are coming into&lt;br /&gt;Elsinore. This is part of the description of the works that they can&lt;br /&gt;perform.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best actors in the world, either for tragedy,&lt;br /&gt;comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical,&lt;br /&gt;historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-&lt;br /&gt;comical-historical-pastoral, scene individable, or&lt;br /&gt;poem unlimited:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LORD POLONIUS, The Tragedy of Hamlet, Prince of Denmark Act 2, Scene 2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I loved the idea of this as a work and I tried to accomplish a poem without&lt;br /&gt;limits. The whole of the Kenmore project takes place in four volumes of&lt;br /&gt;works. This is not what I thought would happen when I started. I thought&lt;br /&gt;this would be an epic poem with memories and photos and whatnots of found&lt;br /&gt;items to capture the conscious of a community. Over years I gathered up&lt;br /&gt;materials and this slowly became untenable as one volume as a poem cannot&lt;br /&gt;contain all these items into one, but slowly these ideas fell into separate&lt;br /&gt;entities and so became several items. I published the first volume as it is&lt;br /&gt;a traditional book. Volume two is a photopoem book of Kenmore, NY. It is&lt;br /&gt;five years of photos looking at a wonderful village through springtime, a&lt;br /&gt;devastating October ice storm and the destruction and rebuilding of the&lt;br /&gt;elementary school I attended, Jane Addams. The third is craft elements and&lt;br /&gt;very anti computer. Comprising hand written memories, scraps, found objects&lt;br /&gt;to create a moving experiment of scrapbook and hysterical diary. Taking the&lt;br /&gt;idea of non-computer generated memories in a one sitting purge of ideas;&lt;br /&gt;this becomes a moving portrait of a town through touch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fourth volume is a mirror image of the first volume. Set in one-word&lt;br /&gt;poems this is the ghost image of the first book, and the setting of private&lt;br /&gt;memories using street names as titles with one-word as the poem. This&lt;br /&gt;evocative display of one-word poems takes the reader on a side street of&lt;br /&gt;what a poem should be and what a single word can provoke and provide. The&lt;br /&gt;one-word poem depends on two elements to work. In this case the title is the&lt;br /&gt;street title and it corresponds to a memory. There is also the element of&lt;br /&gt;mirroring to the first volume the published book. So Tremaine Ave. Volume&lt;br /&gt;One will has a direct connection to the Tremaine Ave. in Volume Four&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;3. The book is organized around events that happen in two tales, one about&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Gwion and the Wisdom Potion and the other from The Book of Enoch. What is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;your personal relationship to tales and, perhaps, fairy tales? I know that&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;you have written some children's book&lt;/span&gt;s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do write for children, it's very fun and it comes more naturally to me&lt;br /&gt;than say, detective fiction. I think all of my work has some element of the&lt;br /&gt;fairy tale in them, for better or worse. I am intrigued by the small stories&lt;br /&gt;we tell one another and how they turn and develop into other stories. In one&lt;br /&gt;sense, we are nothing more than the stories we tell each other. And in this&lt;br /&gt;I wanted to understand who I was by delving into the base stories that make&lt;br /&gt;up a formulation of myself by the texts that moved me. I choose core ideas&lt;br /&gt;such as religion and the hero-myth. The ballad of Taliesin and the Mabinogi&lt;br /&gt;is a root story of the King Arthur legend and the book of Enoch is still&lt;br /&gt;used today in many forms of Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both stories are myths about great poets and so making the poet into a&lt;br /&gt;lively hero, taking him from life to death to rebirth then in the second&lt;br /&gt;half have the poet hero ascend to heaven as receives a tour, of sorts. So&lt;br /&gt;the blending of the two make for a unique story perfect for poetry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;4. Could you tell us a little about The Book of Enoch? about Taliesin? You&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;have biblical and old welsh references here.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taliesin was a master poet of the 6th century and is believed to be the&lt;br /&gt;court poet to three Celtic British kings. He became the basis for the&lt;br /&gt;literary figure Merlin the wizard. I chose to use the myth about his&lt;br /&gt;becoming the poet. He ate a magic fish, which was meant for another. There&lt;br /&gt;is an ensuing wizard battle in which he looses by being eaten. However,&lt;br /&gt;instead of dying he becomes a child in the womb of the witch he was&lt;br /&gt;fighting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second half is based on the Book of Enoch, the man who walked with god.&lt;br /&gt;This is an apocryphal apocalyptic text from the Old Testament of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;This backbone of a story tells of how the angles fell from heaven when they&lt;br /&gt;fell in love with human women. They marries them and had children who were&lt;br /&gt;giants. God kills the children and buries the bones and sends all 200 devils&lt;br /&gt;into hell. Enoch gets to witness this from God's vantage point. From there&lt;br /&gt;Enoch is guide through the heavens by several angles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;5. You tend to write long lines. Is that typical of your work? What do you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;see as the long lines' contribution to this work?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a combination of writing styles in this book. Long lines help with&lt;br /&gt;the narrative functions in this poem. I think this helps to tell the story&lt;br /&gt;and move it along. The more abstract ideas are woven into shorter poems and&lt;br /&gt;using shorter lines. There are also differing uses of tone for each part.&lt;br /&gt;The first is lively and has a verve to the story telling, while the second&lt;br /&gt;part becomes tedious in it's use of the religious / biblical language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;6.  If we can speak of the religion and tales loosely as myths, would you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;agree that the book mythologizes the present and offers contemporary&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;examples of the myths?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes indeed. I took both of these as myth, being careful with the Book of&lt;br /&gt;Enoch, as it is still in use today with certain branches of Christianity,&lt;br /&gt;especially in Ethiopia. This story does take place in the present time and&lt;br /&gt;is a new vision for the originals. Both sections are from myths that are&lt;br /&gt;quite still popular today, so in a sense it is going back to the roots to&lt;br /&gt;find something fresh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;7. What about Kenmore, the contemporary city, is worthy of myth?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well no of course not :-) It is no different than any other suburban area&lt;br /&gt;and part of the reason for the myth. After Olsen and William Carlos Williams&lt;br /&gt;how can one address place in poetry? I am not suggesting that this is on par&lt;br /&gt;with their work, but it was the only way I could find to adequately admire&lt;br /&gt;the place I grew up and lived in at the time of writing the pieces. I&lt;br /&gt;dreamed many fine dreams walking those streets and those dreams all had a&lt;br /&gt;foot in one or both of these myths. So it was tremendous fun to put all&lt;br /&gt;together.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/http:&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-1551765024764276929?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/1551765024764276929/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/geoffry-gatza-on-his-book-kenmore.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1551765024764276929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/1551765024764276929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/geoffry-gatza-on-his-book-kenmore.html' title='Geoffry Gatza on his book KENMORE'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-5879647195563019498</id><published>2010-03-09T19:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-03-11T14:56:16.479-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John Jeffire'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lady Hazardous'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Motown Burning'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Renaissance City'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lea Jeffire'/><title type='text'>Interview With John Jeffire about MOTOWN BURNING</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Motown Burning&lt;/span&gt; is a fine second novel by Detroit writer John Jeffire. In it, he tells the story of an usual love between a small-town upper middle class girl and a lower class city boy. By the end of this novel, which is set in the late 60's, Detroit burns in the worst riot in US history and we visit painful and debilitating scenes in Vietnam.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;1. Congratulations on winning the award for "Motown Burning." Could you tell us a bit about it?&lt;/span&gt; The book actually won two awards. The first was the Mount Arrowsmith Novel Competition when it was still in manuscript format. The second was the Independent Publishing Awards Gold Medal for Regional Fiction. The second award was cool because Dave Eggers won a gold medal in the same competition in a different category, so to be in the vicinity of someone like that, even if it’s just out in the parking lot, is kind of a rush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;2. Could you tell us a little about yourself -- family, work, interests, history with writing? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me? I turn 48 this year and I’m still trying to figure out what the hell I’m about. I was born and raised in Detroit, and later I grew up working in my parents’ bar in Ohio. They were regular blue collar people, no college education, working very long hours every day. I was actually the first person in my family to earn a college education, whatever that’s worth. But I didn’t go to college right away after high school because I was a competitive wrestler and had a chance to train overseas for a year. In fact, wrestling has been a large part of my life, and I just gave up full-time coaching a few years ago after my second spinal surgery. I didn’t really understand writing until I got to college, and one great teacher, Albert Glover, lit the fuse. We studied Philip Levine, and that was it for me, I was hooked. Levine described Detroit and its decay and pride and fierceness and I got it, probably the only kid in that class of upper-crust budding yuppies who understood what the hell this poet guy was talking about. I said to myself, If this is poetry, I think I can do it, or at least try. Beginning as a very bad poet, I’ve branched off into decent poetry, short stories, a play, and two novels. On a personal note, I was married right after my sophomore year in college, and my son and daughter are both grown and out of the house now. Life is moving very rapidly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;3. How would you describe this book to someone who has not read it, but needs enough information to follow our interview? Why did you entitle it Motown Burning?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In a basic sense, it’s a love story. Aram Pehlivanian, A.P., the protagonist, is a high school drop-out working at his uncle’s bar. One night at local concert, he meets Katie, and they are crazy about each other. It’s a classic match of opposites: the inner city street punk and the prim, proper suburban girl. Their relationship is complicated when A.P. gets into trouble during the 1967 Detroit Riots, and he is given an ultimatum: go to jail or go to Vietnam. He chooses to go to Vietnam, which a lot of kids in the same situation did back in the day, and that’s where the title comes from. While he’s over in Vietnam, he learns that Katie is pregnant. So literally the city of Detroit is burning from the riot, a true historical event, but A.P., who is nicknamed Motown in Vietnam, is also burning to get back home to be with Katie and his child.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;4. What sort of research did you conduct for this book? Did you interview people? If so, what effect did it have on your writing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I actually began researching just by going back through my memories of that time period. I was a little kid in ’67 and remember the tanks and army men in the streets. That was quite a sight for a kid. My family was living in Dearborn at the time, and the mayor, Orville Hubbard, called in the National Guard and ordered them to shoot on sight anyone crossing the border into the city. I also talked quite a bit with my parents about this when I was younger before they passed away, and it’s funny but people from Detroit in that era can tell you exactly where they were when the riots broke out, kind of like people today know the exact moment and place they were when they learned of 9/11 and the towers being hit. It’s indelible, there forever, and it’s never going to leave. I also talked to a number of Vietnam vets to get a sense of what it was like, the fear, the nerves, the futility. I also recalled some of the sergeants and officers I worked with when I was in ROTC in college. I eventually got kicked out of the army at my officer’s basic course in Fort Bragg after I flunked the physical because of a knee injury I got wrestling, but I remember those people and the stories they told. That’s probably what fuels me most as a writer; I’m a real listening junkie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;5. Please tell us a little about the Detroit riots, and why you wanted to work them into your book. Why do you think they have received so little attention in the national mythos?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ’67 Detroit Riots were one of the most significant events to take place in this country’s history, certainly its history in the 1960s, and yet there’s basically nothing on it out there in movies, books, plays, and the like. It’s bullshit. After my book was out I picked up Jeffrey Eugenides’ &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Middlesex&lt;/span&gt; because I had heard that it mentioned the riots, but the book bored me in the early going and I never even got to the Detroit parts. That probably makes me sound lunk-headed and probably isn’t very fair to the book, but so be it, I get impatient with stories that don’t move at a certain clip. If you want to understand the United States in the 1960s, though, and all the tensions that were fomenting there, you just have to look at Detroit to see what it was all about. The social, racial, political, and artistic conflicts plaguing America at the time blew up in Detroit. The brief mythology is that two black Vietnam vets returned home and their neighbors were going to throw them a party a local blind pig, an unlicensed after-hours club. Well, the cops, who were notorious for cruising around the city in their Big-4 units abusing minority citizens, showed up but they weren’t prepared for such a huge crowd on hand. And the crowd said, That’s it, we’re not taking it anymore, fuck you, and the place erupted. The next four days were total chaos; Baghdad today has nothing on Detroit in July of ’67. The 82nd Airborne Division and the National Guard had to be called in, tanks, troop carriers, out and out warfare in the streets. The official death toll was 43, but they were finding bodies long after the riot was officially over and some bodies were never found. I talked with one woman who was a nurse and she said that her hospital alone had at least that many people brought in who died. But officials wanted to downplay everything, like they had the whole ordeal in hand, the iron fist bringing order. The old-timers say the death total was closer to 200, and over 7,000 people were arrested. Fourteen square miles of the city burned down. No city in America has experienced this, and yet where are the stories? To this day several neighborhoods have never recovered. Which is why I shake my head when the government is giving out millions to the silk-suited executive assholes of these companies they ran into the ground, like that is helping America. There are real people in real neighborhoods who could use a small fraction of that money to make their city livable and safe. I better stop there because I’m starting to get pissed off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;6. This book keeps switching the first person point of view among characters, in the manner of Faulkner's "As I Lay Dying." For instance, Opie narrates the first 10 or so pages, Saint the next 25, and so on. Why did you choose this point of view?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You know, the story is born in a riot, so I wanted there to be a sense of chaos, of confusion, in the narrative. In several cases, the different characters’ accounts overlap but their perspectives are very different. In one way or another, A.P. is in every chapter, sometimes just in passing. Like any traumatic event, though, it can seem to make no sense when you’re in the middle of it trying to survive, but afterwards, when you have the safe distance to reflect, you can say to yourself, Oh, so this is where it started, and that’s why this person did that, and that’s what happened off in the corner that I was unaware of. So much of what happens in the book centers around the riot and the war in Vietnam, so it didn’t make sense to me to tell the story in traditional narrative. There had to be some confusion, frustration, dislocation. Structurally, though, the story is as old as it gets, following &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Iliad&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Odyssey&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Iliad&lt;/span&gt; begins in medias res and we’re already on the shores of Troy; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Motown Burning&lt;/span&gt; begins with A.P. already in Vietnam. A.P. is a Motor City Odysseus, and Katie is his Penelope. The story is based upon a journey and a return, and someone who likes to find parallels can find several others. But I didn’t want the book to be a mere retelling of &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Iliad&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Odyssey&lt;/span&gt; with names and settings changed. If readers get that layer of meaning, fine, but it shouldn’t carry the entire story. At least they should like the chapter epigraphs, which are from Detroit music of the time, The Temptations, the MC5, Iggy Pop, Dinah Washington, Bob Seger. It don’t get no better than that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;7. From my reading, I think the difference between your point of view and Faulkner's is that you do not write in stream of consciousness. Usually, the characters seem to be narrating something in the past that they have already processed. Am I right? Does this square with your sense of how the book unfolds? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Absolutely. A.P. is the only character who speaks in stream of consciousness; outwardly, he is inarticulate and would never be able to express himself verbally at such length, so it was necessary to get in his head a bit. He’s not a talker, but a lot is going on in his thoughts and he feels very deeply. With the other characters, I wanted to create a kind of confessional tone, like this was their chance to tell someone what happened to them, to set the record straight and explain how they saw matters, like they were talking to a journalist.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;8. I was really impressed with how adroitly you had various characters approach the same incidents in the book. The one that sticks out the most for me is when you have this skinny kid show up during the riot. Only later do we learn that it was the main character whom we have already gotten to know. What do such techniques show us about point of view, perspective, attention? (Here, I am asking you to offer some thoughts on what your book can offer readers in terms of enriching their experiences.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’ve always been amused by the statement, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” It’s also interesting how much the world today knows of Jesus Christ, yet very little appears about him in Roman records; he simply didn’t matter very much to them, barely a blip on the radar. So much of what we think and believe today is based upon point of view, much of it often manipulated or based on outright lies. Weapons of mass destruction, anyone? In the chapters dealing with the riot, the narrative voices are from a cop, a Black Panther sniper, a National Guardsman, and a citizen who loses a child (this was actually based on the death of Tonia Blanding, the youngest casualty in the ’67 Riots). In the Vietnam chapters, we hear from various soldiers in A.P.’s unit but also a Vietnamese soldier. History as a story is hardly fair, but I at least wanted to try to be fair in telling this particular tale.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;9. Does A.P. die in the end? Does the disconnect between he and Katie -- Katie can't figure out how to hug him and he falls into his own hands, not hers -- signify the impossibility of bridging the differences in their experiences?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are great questions because 90% of the comments I get about the book focus on the end. A.P. doesn’t die, but he is definitely broken, both in body and spirit at the end. I wanted to show that he has come to the realization that he cannot face the world in the same way he always has. Whenever something got in his path, he responded physically with violence out of pure instinct. It was how he was raised. Now, however, he cannot even physically stand up. This is devastating to him, and he must try to figure out who he is and how he can get about in the world. Katie is there waiting for him, and she isn’t sure how to approach him, to touch him in a way that won’t cause him any more pain. This is where I needed to leave the characters—no easy closure, no happily ever after. So many of the Vietnam vets I talked to expressed that sense of alienation and uneasiness when they returned home, and many still struggle with knowing their place in the world after what they experienced. A.P. is home and Katie is there to greet him, but he is a new man, tragically reborn, and he must face the world in a new way he does not understand or necessarily embrace. That split second with his hands covering his face will be the last he has before he must see the new world and his new self within it. I wanted that sense of uncertainty because that is what the characters are challenged with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;10. Tell us about the journal and press that you are starting up. What other projects do you have going on now?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was approached by a fellow Detroit writer, Rhoda Stamell, about starting an on-line magazine, as if I don’t have enough to do, and &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Renaissance City&lt;/span&gt; was born (www.rencity.net). I wanted something that was sharp but straightforward and unpretentious, something that would be more than just poems on a blank flat screen. So we do have stories and poems, but several of the pieces are film clips of the authors reading, which I think is new and vibrant. We’ve also got art and music in the form of live performances I’ve taped and sound files I’ve been sent. My hope is to have more input and submissions from more artists in the future, but the start has been fun and we had one hell of a launch party! The press I started is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Motown Rising&lt;/span&gt;, and I began by publishing my daughter Lea’s memoir, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Lady Hazardous&lt;/span&gt;. It’s about her struggles with drug addiction, and for me it was a challenge to edit the book but also to confront what she says, because so much of it is personal to our family, and not always very flattering. It was draining. The book is solid, though, and it’s built on truth, so we’ll see where it goes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-5879647195563019498?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/5879647195563019498/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-with-john-jeffire-about.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5879647195563019498'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/5879647195563019498'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-with-john-jeffire-about.html' title='Interview With John Jeffire about MOTOWN BURNING'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-4550180040611742333</id><published>2010-03-05T14:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-03-05T14:57:35.570-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Madhatter&apos;s Review'/><title type='text'>ANNOUNCING THE FIRST MAD HATTERS' REVIEW KNOCK OUR HATS OFF CONTEST</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.madhattersreview.com/"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mad  Hatters’  Review&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt; is considering submissions to  our Knock Our Hin FICTION or  POETRY until June 30th (11:59 p.m., USA EST). &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;p class="content" align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;First  prize winners &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;                                      &lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;in both genres  will receive &lt;strong&gt;$250&lt;/strong&gt; (each)&lt;strong&gt; plus publication &lt;/strong&gt;of   their entries in Issue 12. 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In the name of full disclosure, I do have two stories among them. My motivation in doing this series is to learn more about some stories and writers I admire, and to promote Big Bridge which, along with Jacket and Madhatter's Review, is one of the few web journals that is exploring the possibilities opened by the internet rather than simply transferring print practices to the web.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"Crystal Skulls"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Where did you come up with a name like Tinguely Querer?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;That’s a great question. It’s a blend, based primarily on the Swiss kinetic artist, Jean Tinguely, who built moving sculptures and installations – “nonsense machines” --&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;often designed to self-destruct.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;One of my favorites is his “Tinguelybrunnen” (fountain) in Basel, Switzerland.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The moving parts spray water in all directions in a random way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Other parts of the fountain illustrate fruitless efforts (a shoveling machine that shovels nothing&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;/ nothingness).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I like the idea of giving the character the name “Tinguely” to resonate with levels of empty action, and also the self-aware self-destruction (or even self-aware deconstruction) of one’s own cognitive processes as one observes and perceives the world around one.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Querer is Spanish for “to love, to desire.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I like the idea that love and/or desire is subverted if one thinks back to Tinguely’s core essence.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Also, I like the notion that if one reads “Querer” quickly, one is likely to see “Queer.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The “queer” gaze deconstructs the conventional in society, and undermines the authority structures we are not supposed to question.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I find it interesting that you chose to have the skulls stolen from the British Museum, given Britain's colonial past. You also bring up the Mayans. In what ways is this story exploring the significance and implications of colonialism?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In the story, Tinguely’s identity has been stolen, and she has to steal it back.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That parallels the Mayans’ own history – their identity was stolen and partially placed in the British Museum.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In essence, they had to steal their identity back.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet, instead of being a formative, unifying experience, the action of getting one’s identity back makes one even more aware of the self-destruct button in our consciousness – one that finds expression in Jean Tinguely’s machines, and in the Mayan prophecies of the end of the world in 2012.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The skulls stolen from the British Museum turned out to be fake, which problematizes the entire issue of identity – Mayan identity – and the integrity of the predictions of apocalypse in 2012. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Are our apocalyptic narratives constructed from fake or faked texts?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If so, the issues brought to the surface are quite interesting.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If our ancient texts are fakes produced in the 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; and 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; centuries, then what we think we know about the past is, in reality, an extension of modernity and the modernist teleology, such as it is. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;What are you establishing as the relationship between memory and "branding"?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Branding can be an attempt to recreate oneself in a permanent manner.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Consumer products are perceived as the most meaningful markers in a world where one’s experience of life, and one’s very consciousness are tied to commercial products.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The way to assure one’s immortality (at least in the sense that people remember you) is to create a durable brand of yourself. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;But, the issues become more complicated “between brands” – identity is in flux.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The issue is that of erasure – and often deliberate self-erasure in order to re-create oneself.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It sounds easy in theory, but in reality, it is not. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Anything else that you would like to add?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Just that I enjoyed the idea of building identity and then deliberately dismantling it, or effacing it by subjecting it to the attendance of a useless (but very busy) machine. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Arroyo&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;This story alternates narriticules relating self-mutilation with narriticules about technology and love. Do you see a relationship between masochism, or something like it, and technology? between masochism and love?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In each case, people are seeking some sort of truth about the human condition.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whether there is, ultimately, any kind of “truth” is not really settled.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There are definitely certain “truths” or, perhaps better said, “realities” – but the truths and realities are multiple, and they are all equally valid.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The possibility that all are equally invalid is also a possibility. The “narriticules” ( I love the term!) &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I do see a relationship between technology and love. I believe, in my heart of hearts, that technology makes love possible.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Human behavior alone is just not enough.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s necessary to have a neutral intermediary – a bridge, so to speak – to bring together two human beings whose own human natures are so perverse that they inevitably and invariably equate self-torture with love.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Big emotions require big pain (or pleasure), I suppose.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Left to us, we mess things up.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, in terms of the narrative itself, it fascinates me to see the kind of technologies that facilitate the coming together of two things.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The whip used by the flagellant is definitely a technology – but, it’s something that unites body and soul (in an uncomfortable way), but it does not necessarily unite individuals.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;GPS and communication technologies most definitely can unite people, although the technology itself becomes the object of love. .&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Big Big Sky&lt;/u&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;This one does not seem to be a Tinguely Querer story. How do you determine which stories work in that context?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I like the idea of doing stories that explore the intrusive thoughts that come to one, and to put it in an autobiographical form, even though the story is not autobiographical. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;You again juxtapose technology with nature: antelope with windfarm, songbird with car, birds with farm implements, running track, and i-pod. The juxtapositions are interesting because they are not necessarily absolute. The birds, for instance, make a home of the farm equipment.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;That’s a great observation about the juxtapositions and the fact that they are not absolutely.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I love the idea of putting together unexpected items – not to necessarily draw meaning or to create a metaphor, but to introduce possibilities.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-7377171390404957059?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/7377171390404957059/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/02/susan-smith-nash-and-her-stories-in.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7377171390404957059'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/7377171390404957059'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/02/susan-smith-nash-and-her-stories-in.html' title='Susan Smith Nash and her stories in the 2009 Big Bridge'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-2311409735256821931</id><published>2010-02-23T11:27:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-23T12:04:07.273-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Fairy Tale Review'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lily Hoag'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Changing'/><title type='text'>Lily Hoang's CHANGING</title><content type='html'>I love this novel. Yes, I like this book and I am impressed by it, but more importantly, I love it.&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Let me explain: this book is unique, touching, intimate. It almost feels autobiographical, but it is not. On page after page &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Hoang's&lt;/span&gt; riffs on Jack and Jill and other nursery rhymes, on romantic relationships, on cruelty and tenderness, on family, feel so intimate that to not love them would seem inhumane.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Changing,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;a 2009 Pen America Award Winner, is based on the ancient Chinese &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;uber&lt;/span&gt;-text &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;I-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Ching&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt; or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Book of Changes&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;. The book is composed of 64 hexagrams, each one with six stacked horizontal lines. Some lines are composed of just one dash (­—) an­d some are two (--).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The unbroken lines are associated with yang, the creative principle, and the broken with yin, the receptive principle. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For our purposes, it is enough to know that these 64 hexagrams refer to combinations of concrete natural phenomena; namely earth, mountain, water, wind, thunder, fire, swamp, and heaven. For each hexagram, the first three lines refer to one of these phenomena and the second three refer to another. (This is how we get the number 64; there are 64 such possible combinations.) Water, as an example, is composed of a broken line followed by a solid line and another broken line, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;To use the &lt;i&gt;I-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;Ching&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;for divination, you ask a question then randomly pick a number. Studying that hexagram should help you understand your question better. In an appendix at the end of the book, Lily says that she wants the book to be read that way. For all practical purposes, we can assume that the book need not be read sequentially.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Hoang's&lt;/span&gt; book is a new translation of the &lt;i&gt;I-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Ching&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;. And it works by, for each hexagram, riffing off of its implications for two pages. (i.e. Each chapter is two pages.) A chapter is divided into six blocks of text, three on one page and three on the other. Some of these blocks are broken into two columns and others are completely solid. They correspond to the broken or solid lines in the hexagrams.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;To see what Lily does with three hexagrams, go&lt;a href="http://www.pen.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/3706/prmID/1496"&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;. Note that there are six text blocks under each hexagram, and that in the book a page break takes place between the third and the fourth ones. Since it is &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;easilly&lt;/span&gt; accessible on the net, I will use this excerpt as an example of what happens throughout the book. I will concentrate on the first one, "Obstruction."&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The most direct discussion of the hexagram itself is in the text block that begins "This hexagram is not..." Since heaven is the ultimate creative force (with its three solid lines) and earth the ultimate receptive one (with its three broken lines), it would seem that this hexagram would be water. But it is not: it is obstruction or barricade. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Hoang&lt;/span&gt; imagines the Princess Jill living in a castle behind a moat. Where did this come from? Throughout the book, in every discussion of a hexagram, Lily goes into Jack and Jill at one point. What's more, other nursery rhymes and fairy tales are quoted. So here, Jill is a princess, evoking all sorts of other tales. This quoting while riffing is very similar to what many jazz artists do, who, while soloing, "quote" the melodies of other songs as a playful and generative act.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;This riffing and quoting occurs throughout this excerpt and throughout the book. Each chapter is composed of more than six riffs on the title coming from different &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;imagist&lt;/span&gt;, allegorical, and conceptual frameworks. For an example of an allegory, look at the text block &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;beginning&lt;/span&gt; "That us lovers..." The whole piece is about the narrator's inability to play chess well and, by implication, the lover's "clean" ability. This is an allegory about the narrator's difficulty with bringing intense emotional scenes (what else could the chess game suggest other than arguments, stressful decisions, an inability to be decisive?) to a conclusion. Perhaps they tend to fester.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Other text blocks under this hexagram are equally interesting. If we remember that with the bottom three lines we are dealing with ultimate receptivity, the block beginning "Impossible for the great..." becomes fascinating. It is a paean to the Taoist idea that the insignificant and nonfunctional (the traditional example is of a severely bent tree) will not be hurt. Here we see how crafty and impossible to catch are the small ones. The very nature of ultimate receptivity implies a strength, an ability to take powerful pressure and yet still remain. The total obstruction of the receptive is impossible (and this is also in keeping with the Yin Yang philosophy) no matter how hard anyone tries.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In the long text block beginning "Memory of the city..." Lily works the notion of water and rain as obstruction once again. Using conjunctions, repetition, and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;agrammatical&lt;/span&gt; structures she causes us to plunge down the text block like heavy rainwater. And it ends with the rye comment "before we're real stuck." The playfulness in this section is quite typical. There is a &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;bouyancy&lt;/span&gt; to this novel in spite of its many tragic elements: cancer, growing old, homophobia, racism, breaking from family, and so on.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The playfulness, perhaps, comes from the the conception or intuition that animates the novel, the use of the &lt;i&gt;I-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Ching&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: normal;"&gt;— coupled with the wildly free, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;agrammatical&lt;/span&gt; style. What's more, the play seems inexhaustible. Each chapter could be discussed for hours in terms of how Lily is riffing off of the hexagram. In the sections of the hexagram "Obstruction," she deals with memory, fear, sadness, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;definitions&lt;/span&gt;, Heaven, Earth, small vs. great, family, translating, allegory, and housing. All in two pages!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;What's more, this intricately textured novel is not dense. There is so much room to breathe, so much tenderness — the mother lying next to a sick little girl and&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;asking her to give the illness to the mother, and the little girl not wanting to get her mother sick; lovers hearing "how sounds move in groups to our ears"; &amp;amp; Jill walking "into a forest &amp;amp; there she sang with rabbits &amp;amp; birds &amp;amp; a very charming prince overheard melody. And there is tremendous pain — cancer and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;chemotherapy&lt;/span&gt;, racist comments aimed at the little girl and her parents, love affairs breaking apart, a young man almost completely rejected by his family because of being a homosexual. Each of these, returned to again and again under different hexagrams, causes us to read each text block in at least two ways: one in relation to the hexagram it is under, and the other to the other text blocks under different hexagrams that deal with the same issue.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I love this novel because of its tenderness, its playfulness, its ability to look at some of the most horrible aspects of experience yet not despair. To read this novel and inhabit its world is to feel that almost anything can happen, and it might be horrible. It also might be beautiful. But in that very randomness is the possibility for a a spaciousness and openness that is the source of endurance, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;perseverance&lt;/span&gt;, play, and good fortune. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2075443389691937979-2311409735256821931?l=experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/feeds/2311409735256821931/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/02/lily-hoangs-changing.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2311409735256821931'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2075443389691937979/posts/default/2311409735256821931'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://experimentalfictionpoetry.blogspot.com/2010/02/lily-hoangs-changing.html' title='Lily Hoang&apos;s CHANGING'/><author><name>Jeff</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07939147413299041270</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_7kcozb3NJvE/SF0lXeXwGaI/AAAAAAAAABo/Xx0vyGP-Fl8/S220/Photo+872.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2075443389691937979.post-7447113817094517381</id><published>2010-02-19T20:15:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2010-02-20T09:33:59.641-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Homi Bhabha'/><title type='text'>More Questions About Bhabha's Work</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;An important essay in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;The Location of Culture&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt; is entitled "Commitment to Theory." In it, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; concerns himself with the practical political gain that can come from writing theory. He wonders if a pamphlet written about and espousing a justified strike would be more effective than theory. Not surprisingly, he argues that we need both. I am interested in the technical complexities of his argument. I have some comments.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;1. He seems to make a dichotomy between, on the one hand, artistically and theoretically radical work and, on the other, political &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;pamphleteering&lt;/span&gt;. But there are so many types of "discourse" in between, especially a number of different types and levels of journalism. From a practical perspective, leftist journalism might do more for the strike than the theory. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Babha's&lt;/span&gt; argument is that the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;pamphleteering&lt;/span&gt; and the journalism will &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;inevitably&lt;/span&gt; reinstate notions of the self and other that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;valorizes&lt;/span&gt; the oppressed over the oppressor. This understandable, but wrong headed, attempt to "solve" these issues is politically &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;naîve&lt;/span&gt;. "Must the project of our &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;liberationist&lt;/span&gt; aesthetics be forever part of a totalizing &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;utopian&lt;/span&gt; vision of Being and History that seeks to transcend the contradictions and &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;ambivalences&lt;/span&gt; that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;constitute&lt;/span&gt; the very structure of human subjectivity and its systems of cultural representation?" (29) &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; clearly articulates what theory and radical culture can do that nothing else is able to do — namely, critique deeply enough to understand oppositions rather than taking one side or the other in a simplistic fashion. He also claims that "the very structure of human subjectivity" and, we will learn, culture, is full of tension, assertion, and doubling. The choice between political alternatives might be easy, but dreaming that the victory of your side will lead to a future that transcends the contradictions inherent in the complexities of both our cultures and ourselves is foolhardy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; does not answer this: what good is this deep critique if so few people are aware of it?&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;The best answer I know for this question comes from the American Poetry scholar Alan Golding. In &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;From Outlaw to Classic: Canons in American Poetry&lt;/span&gt;  (University of Wisconsin Press, 1995), he notes that we shouldn't think of the political value of radical culture outside of the specific, empirical places where these &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;critiques&lt;/span&gt; take place. Namely, they are part and parcel of the life of college and university life, and so often around these institutions are towns and cities of a bent that is much more open to radical culture.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span style="font-family:georgia;"&gt;In short, I believe that the value of theory needs to be measured empirically, not just theoretically. I find Golding's argument a convincing one. Perhaps thinking about our work in terms of the local will help. And, to a degree, this dovetails neatly with some of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;Bhabha's&lt;/span&gt; own thoughts about the importance of thinking "the Other" within our local communities and within our own selves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. "Radical critique .. within the political process becomes double-edged. It makes us aware that our political referents and priorities — the people,the community, class struggle, anti-&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;racist&lt;/span&gt;, gender difference, the assertion of an anti-imperialist, black or third perspective — are not there in some primordial, naturalistic sense... They make sense as they come to be constructed in the discourses of feminism or Marxism or the Third Cinema or whatever" (38).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, any object we want to fight for, is always already created by being represented and nurtured within an ideological framework. What this means is profound: there can never be total victory. One side can never vanquish the other because it needs the other side of the dichotomy in order for it to be constructed as a political position. Anti-racism comes not because there is objective racism, but because racism has been defined as problematic by a discourse. One of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;Babha's&lt;/span&gt; favorite words is "&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;agonistic&lt;/span&gt;," which means struggle but is also the root of "agony." He would never put it this simply, but to be human means to be permanently in political struggle. It is part of our condition. "The pure avenging angel speaking the truth of a radical ... pure &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;oppositionality&lt;/span&gt;" (38) will never arrive and will certainly never succeed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not so much pessimism as it is an attempt to rigorously define how politics works — namely, through our own chosen representations. Having a discourse that does this helps us to know what we can hope for. And it shows us how much control we have over our political representations, which is a lot, but not total.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have yet to look at critiques of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Bhabha's&lt;/span&gt; position, but I imagine that these reflections must create real opposition. Someone may say that, for instance, anti-racism is not the result of a representation, but the result of painful experience. Anti-racism, in this view, results from nothing other than the treatment of real people, not from representation. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; would respond, I think, that racism is bad, but it is bad because it has been represented as such. This representation can never be total, so the avenging angel of anti-racism probably can never vanquish it all. Or, if something approaching totality comes about, there will be other issues that come to be represented as problems in "the hybrid moment of political change" (41). "There is no first or final act of revolutionary social (or socialist) transformation" (45).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To make clearer the level at which his critique takes place, namely, in the difference between cultural &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;diversity&lt;/span&gt; and cultural &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;difference.&lt;/span&gt; "Cultural diversity is an epistemological object — culture as an object of empirical knowledge — whereas cultural difference is the process of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;enunciation &lt;/span&gt;of culture as 'knowledge&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;able&lt;/span&gt;,' &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;authoritative&lt;/span&gt;, adequate to the construction of systems of cultural identification" (49-50). Cultural diversity leads to a static view of cultures as self-contained and relativistic, that which is represented rather than that which is part of representation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cultural difference, on the other hand, "&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;problematizes&lt;/span&gt; the binary division of past and present, tradition and modernity, at the level of cultural representation and its authoritative address" (51). Instead of relativism we get 'enunciation'. Enunciation seems to be the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;communicative&lt;/span&gt; act that cannot fully represent, that there is a slippage. Cultural objects are always already represented, but the structure of any representation, since it is &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;artificial&lt;/span&gt; and not natural, is to not fully grasp what it is it's representing. In the words of Jacques Derrida, whom &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; quotes, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;différance&lt;/span&gt; is the name given for this slippage at the level of representation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, in any culture, an &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;enunciative&lt;/span&gt; act is always already contentious, partial, and ambivalent. &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; gives the example of how a native intellectual looking for a return to a mythic tradition will be disappointed when they enunciate themselves in part by engaging in "Western forms of information technology, language, dress" (55). &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;Bhabha&lt;/span&gt; argues that the past is always a representation, based partly on our desires for it, and that we cannot force it on the present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I was in college an anthropology professor of mine described an incident that occurred when he was studying the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;Kru&lt;/span&gt;, an African tribe. He was observing a woman cooking a dish, and he was dutifully taking everything down that she was doing. Then she picked up a can of tuna, opened it, and put it in. My professor remarked that it wasn't a "true" &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31"&gt;Kru&lt;/span&gt; dish. She became quite angry. 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